Trump calls for famed Alcatraz prison to be reopened, expanded

Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary closed in 1963 and operates as a museum.

Last Updated: May 5, 2025, 2:53 AM EDT

President Donald Trump on Sunday that he doesn't know if he is supposed to uphold the Constitution and relies on his lawyers to follow the law.

"I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said," Trump told NBC in an interview that aired Sunday on "Meet the Press."

Trump also said that he wouldn't seek a third term as president, though he has teased the possibility several times, and that he wouldn't fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell before his term ends in 2026.

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May 04, 2025, 7:25 PM EDT

Trump orders reopening, expansion of famed Alcatraz prison

President Donald Trump said in a post to Truth Social on Sunday that he is ordering the Bureau of Prisons to reopen and expand the famed Alcatraz Island prison, which lies off the coast of San Francisco, "to house America's most ruthless and violent Offenders."

PHOTO: Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary
Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay is the home of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary. Now a museum, the prison (often referred to as 'The Rock') is managed by the U.S. National Park Service. The federal prison was in operation from 1934 until 1963. The former penitentiary is the most popular tourist attraction in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Robert Alexander/Getty Images)
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"We will no longer be held hostage to criminals, thugs, and Judges that are afraid to do their job and allow us to remove criminals, who came into our Country illegally," Trump wrote.

Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary closed in 1963 after nearly 30 years in operation primarily due to high operating costs and the deteriorating condition of the facility, according to the Bureau of Prisons.

It has operated as a museum since 1973 and has become one of the most popular Park Service sites, with over a million visitors each year, according to the Bureau of Prisons.

-ABC News' Fritz Farrow

May 04, 2025, 1:58 PM EDT

Trump says he won’t fire Jerome Powell

The president said he won’t fire Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell before his term ends in May 2026, but again called on him to lower interest rates.

“Well, he should lower them, and at some point, he will. He'd rather not because he's not a fan of mine, not, you know, just doesn't like me, because I think he's a total stiff and, you know, it's just one of those things,” Trump said. “He should lower them. And I wish the people that are on that board would get him to lower because we are at a perfect time--it's already late--but he should lower interest rates.”

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell speaks at the Economic Club of Chicago, April 16, 2025.
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He then ruled out firing Powell.

“I’m not-- you know, I get to change him very quickly anyway. You know in a very short period of time,” Trump said.

Pressed if he had plans to remove Powell before 2026, Trump said, “No. I don’t have plans. That was a total-- Why would I do that? I get to replace the person in another short period of time.”

-ABC News’ Fritz Farrow

May 04, 2025, 1:47 PM EDT

Trump rules out another presidential run

Though he has teased seeking a third term in 2028 despite the Constitution barring it, Trump on Sunday ruled out another run, saying his current four-year term will be his last.

“But this is not something I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a great Republican, to carry it forward. But I think we're going to have four years, and I think four years is plenty of time to do something really spectacular,” Trump told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

President Donald Trump gives a commencement address at the University of Alabama, May 1, 2025, in Tuscaloosa, Ala.
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“I just want to serve, do a great job,” he later added. “I’ll be an eight-year president. I’ll be a two-term president. I always thought that was important to be honest with you.”

The president pointed to Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State and interim national security adviser Marco Rubio as possible successors, and said, when asked, that he believes his MAGA movement can survive without him.

-ABC News’ Fritz Farrow

May 04, 2025, 1:19 PM EDT

Trump says he’s not defying the Supreme Court over Abrego Garcia

In an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Trump said he was not defying the Supreme Court by not facilitating the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland resident who was mistakenly deported to an El Salvador prison.

Last week, Trump told ABC News that he “could” order Abrego Garcia’s return, but in the NBC interview, Trump said he was relying on the attorney general to determine whether he could.

President Donald Trump arrives at Palm Beach International Airport in West Palm Beach, Fla., May 1, 2025.
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“No, I'm relying on the attorney general of the United States, Pam Bondi, who’s very capable, doing a great job, because I'm not involved in the legality or the illegality,” he said.

Pressed by NBC’s Kristen Welker, Trump said he could ask El Salvador to return Abrego Garcia, but that it’s ultimately President Nayib Bukele’s decision.

“Well, I have the power to ask for him to come back if I'm instructed by the attorney general that it’s legal to do so,” he said. “But the decision as to whether or not he should come back, will be the head of El Salvador, he’s a very capable man.”

Asked if he agreed with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who said citizens and non-citizens in the U.S. deserve due process, Trump replied, I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know."

Asked if he was bound to uphold the Constitution, Trump said, "I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said."

-ABC News’ Fritz Farrow

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