Transcript for Roundtable: Crisis on the Border
There you see president Obama in Denver this week. The white house has a hash tag for the outings. They call it the bear is loose. The president taking heat for shooting pool. But not going to the border to see the crisis firsthand. One of the topics for our "Roundtable." Joined by David Plouffe, senior adviser in the white house. Republican strategist Ana Navarro. Our own cokie Roberts. And bill kristol, the editor of "The weekly standard." Some of the headlines, the bear goes out for a beer and the critics growl. Why didn't the president go the the border? I worked in the white house and so have you. He doesn't need to go to the border to address this. We have had this crisis for decades. But why not go? Yeah. He's had plenty of officials there. It's beside the point. We need to fix the immigration system most broadly. That is the biggest message out of all of this. It's been languishing for decades. You have republican sport. Support. You have democratic support. Get it done. The issue of the kids, we need more resources. You talked to chairman Goodlatte. We need more judges down there. More facilities down there. We have to deal with the short-term crisis. We have to have a long-term immigration solution. If the president had gone to the border. It obviously doesn't make a big difference. But it's symbolically important. It's important for him to show America what is happening with these kids. This is not the time to be tough guys. They're children. They're being put, by themselves, on the trains and boats by themselves to come here. Think how a mother must feel putting them on those boats. In that dangerous situation to come here. We need to be taking care of these children. Part of the message has to be, you guys have to go back home. It's not going to be all compassion. He can't say that. First of all, that's not what the law says. Secondly, the go-home to Honduras, I heard a report this week that in New York, your chances of getting murdered are 1 in 25,000. In Honduras, it's 1 in 14. You can't send children home to that. I'm afraid you have to. You don't. You absolute -- we send children back to Mexico. All over the world. But they're not in those situations. They are in those situations. The idea that you'll let unaccompanied minors into the U.S. Because of a loophole in a 2008 law. The Mexican child gets sent back, the hon durduran gets to stay. That's not sensible. The republicans will propose this week on the hill amending the 2008 law to have even treatment for everyone. The president has to send a message that you can't come here. Why does this happen? David says this is a problem for decades. Why are the kids flooding the place? Because the president am -- amnestied all the kids already here. Every sensible person in central America said, hey, if I can get my kid into the U.S., great. There's not one cause for what is causing this. It's a perfect storm of push factors in central America. That include the poverty, the violence. And poll factors here being exploited and taken advantage of by an organized criminal ring of human smugglers. They're misrepresenting human policies. Taking advantage of parents. Getting them to cobble together $6,000, $7,000 to put their kids in this transport system to get them here when there is no such pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for these kids. So it is important for the president to clarify that the misrepresentation that is going on, on purpose, by criminal forces in central America is not so. That's why it would be important for him to go to the border. I have spoken to republicans and democrats who have been to the shelters. Who have been to the border. Listening to the kids. Listening to the people running the shelters gives you a unique perspective of what the problems on the ground are. I wish he had done it. This republican argument that this situation is caused because we're not sending dream kids home, it's preposterous. It's not based in reality. If that's the republican message, we want to start -- Did you just hear me? Did you just hear me make that argument? I must be looking at bill kristol. You're not quite as republican as me. I'm not quite as old a republican as you are, but I'm just as much a republican. One at a time. The message we have stopped deporting dream kids. Amnesty is a magnet. That has been the republican message. People from the white house have been scoffing at that. How childish a view is that. What is happening on the border right now? The other democratic message, the border is secure. That's not true either. Unprecedented border resources in terms of people, personnel, and money. It's true. Jerry brown says, they all come to California. Which is welcoming them, by the way. There's a fence in California. They don't come into California. They're coming from Texas to California. That's wonderful. They're being shipped to California. Jerry brown says, our border is secure. The California border is secure because we built a fence there over the resistance of the Obama administration. The bottom line is, the border is more secure than it has been. Is it completely secure? No. These kids are turning themselves in. They think that when they turn themselves in. They're not been apprehended -- They're look for officials. So they can then go into the process. And hat's off to the people in McAllen, Texas, sacred heart church, the catholic charities, save the children, are in there trying to help these kids. That's what the congress should be focusing on. There's one thing I want to say. I'm very disappointed with the hispanic celebrities that love to go to the white house and party and sing and dance for the president. With those hispanic organizations. And people that are hispanic and have a voice in this country that have not stood up and figured out a way to help those kids while they're in the shelters, giver them better
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