Transcript for Democratic civil war over Ilhan Omar?
Okay, so Democrats, they're finally getting some power back, and what do they do? They start a civil war in their own party. Democratic lawmakers are split on whether to vote on a measure denouncing anti-semitism after freshman congresswoman ilhan OMAR was accused of using anti-semitic are tropes. Her supporters say it's an unnecessary resolution. But her detractors say the rise of anti-semitism cannot be tolerated in any form. So, do we need a resolution that says that? Isn't that a given at this and why are they fighting with each other when there are so many other things to worry about right now? Good question. And are they throwing the thing over to trump in 2020? It's very annoying and scary, and I don't like it. It's sad that we even need a resolution for this, and frankly, a bad look that we can't even get something like that passed. I'm not going to get into the details. Meghan, I know you know far more about this than I do, but I personally feel for Nancy Pelosi because I think she's in a position similar -- it reminds me of John Boehner, remember when the tea party came in and she cares about the democratic party. Of course she does. She's savvy enough to know that some of these voices in her party rightfully won their election B the things that they say are so out of step with where the majority of the country is so how do you balance that but make sure that the party doesn't lose their soul and connect with the American people and are successful in 2020. Nancy Pelosi, I don't envy her right now but she's in a place where she'll have to try and wrangle them but also don't tweet publicly. Why not get behind closed doors -- Is Nancy tweeting? I feel like the Democrats -- Ilhan OMAR's thing, she tweets all the time like trump. And that's a mistake. And AOC? Yeah. Why not handle it behind closed doors. I think there's tweeting on both sides, right? This issue is really intense for me and just bear with me. I want to say first and foremost, anti-semitism shouldn't be a left or right issue. I don't think we should be politicizing on either side because as we know if it's a tiki torch person in charlottesville saying Jews will not replace us or we had Bari Weiss talking about these more dog whistle moments that in my view ilhan OMAR is doing and she as of Saturday had gone 15 days without saying something anti-semitic. What's interesting about this is she is an up and coming rising star in the democratic party. She's on the cover of "Rolling stone" magazine right now and fits a lot of boxes the Democrats like. She's the first of two Muslim women elected to congress and the first minority woman to serve from Minnesota. The problem is right now, there's pressure to support her within the democratic party because identity politics and intersectionality is important to Democrats. At this specific moment, this is a watershed moment for Democrats. A lot of jewish people in this country are being asked, with the rising anti-semitism in this country, is it more important to defend party politics or anti-semitism. We can have conversations all day long about how you feel about Israeli politics -- Meaning if you object to it? Yes. We can have a conversation all day long about how you feel about Palestinian politics, Israeli politics, how you feel about Netanyahu. I fear that it's seeping to the United States. If what ilhan OMAR were saying for the past few weeks were said by a white Republican male, how would you be reacting to it right now? I mean, for me -- I object to it no matter who says it. I meant, I'm asking the peripheral question. The other thing, why are they always concentrating on Israel is what I want to know. It's a little tiny part in the world. She's from Mogadishu. Does she object to things from there? I'm sure she does, and Yemen and all the hot spots in the world, yet this seems to be the focus of a lot of people around the world including the U.K. And here. Israel, Israel, Israel, why that particular country? It's very suspicious to me. I 100% agree with you on that and I think we should be talking about human rights violations. In Iran people can be thrown off buildings for being gay. There are human rights violations going around globally and I agree with you. My question to ilhan OMAR is why specifically this area of the world, why specifically this group of people and just putting a button on this, she is on a foreign relations committee that will be in charge of what happens globally with our diplomacy. I'm uncomfortable with that in the same way that I was uncomfortable with Steve king being on that as well. To your question, joy, I think we should talk about the comment that she made that has spurned all of this discussion, right? There are many comments though. There are many comments but the comment that she made that we're talking about that the resolution has come from, she said, so for me -- because she has apologized for the other comments, for two of the comments. She also had a lot of pressure to apologize. But she did apologize. The comment she said was, so for me, I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country, and I want to ask, why is it okay for me to talk about the influence of the NRA, fossil fuel industries or big pharma and not talk about a powerful lobby that is influencing policy. People say that is anti-symmetric. Can I just say -- No. Let me just finish. We had Bari Weiss on as an expert and what is anti-semitic and what isn't. I asked her is it okay to talk about Israel's policies and not be called anti-semitic. She said yes. She said yes. She said where it crosses the line is when you say that Israel does not have the right to exist, that that is when it crosses the line. Ilhan OMAR has never suggested that Israel does not have the right to exist. It seems to me that Republicans are trying to use this as a wedge issue. I'm really not. She's not talking about you. And this outrage is kind of crazy because I don't think that the Republicans have moral high ground here. I think that Mccarthy has used this -- these anti-semitic troops. I think that Jim Jordan just recently tweeted this -- Against Tom Steyer. Right. Remember that ilhan OMAR in the West Virginia Republican party just had this huge poster superimposed with her face with 9/11 terrorists and I haven't heard any outrage about that coming from the Republican party. And all that says is that this is selective outrage and I will tell you I take this very personally as a woman of color who has been the subject of so much bigotry. What a lot of people don't know is that my grandfather is jewish. She is a sa far tick Jew. So my family members have received a lot of bigotry, so, you know, I've experienced firsthand in my family anti-semitism and bigotry for being black. So I just -- this whole, you know thing is just a distraction. Are you comfortable with me speaking now? Are we comfortable with me rebutting now? Yes. Okay. She also said Israel has hypnotized the world, suggested that Jews and Israel have bought politicians, all about the benjamins, implied that American Jews have divided loyalties. I again say why this obsession with Jerusalem and Israel? Why this obsession with this specific area of the country? As you've said many times, these are dog whistle comments for jewish Americans. Yes, we agree. And they hear what she's saying. She has apologized for that. You have to admit, Meghan, that it is disingenuous of the Republican party to go after her, her point, when they are backing a president who is in bed with dictators committing human rights violations all over the world. Traffics when bigotry. Let's go there. Just really quickly, since we're talking about -- I take this very personally. I would go so far as to say -- I will say that I don't have family that is jewish but Joe Lieberman and ha daffy Lieberman are my family and I take the hate crimes raising in this country incredibly seriously and I think what's happening in Europe is really scary and I'm sorry if I'm getting emotional. You're right. The idea that this is politicized, I'm really not -- I was very nervous to talk about this on the show because I thought it would become politicized and it shouldn't be. On both sides it should be called out. Right. Just because I don't technically have jewish family that are related to me doesn't mean that I don't take this seriously and it is very dangerous, very dangerous and we collectively as Americans on both sides and as ilhan OMAR is saying is very scary to me and a lot of people and I don't think you have to be jewish to recognize that. You don't, you don't have to be jewish. A resolution from the Democrats, I'm tired of the selective outrage and I hope that we have a joint resolution from theepublicans and from the Democrats. I would be in favor of a joint resolution.
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