"We're talking about me right now. And me taking responsibility for my words and actions. And … I'm certainly not going to use him, to sort of put anything off of me," he said. "It isn't the explanation for what happened that night. It isn't. It has nothing to do with it. … That's in my own heart."
"I was taught that there are good and bad people of any race and creed, you know," he said.
Sawyer also asked about those in the Hollywood community who say that it's too late and that Gibson should be ostracized.
Gibson said he felt sad about those people.
"They've obviously been hurt and frightened and offended enough to feel that they have to do that and. … It's their choice," he said.
In the meantime, Gibson said he had to go on battling his old demons of rage and alcohol and hoping that if there's not a Hollywood ending that somehow, somewhere there's at least another chance.
"Somebody said to me once, 'Pain is the precursor to change,'" Sawyer told Gibson.
"Yes, who said that? Socrates?" Gibson said.
But it was Gibson himself who had said it.
Gibson said he'd been very ashamed of what happened that night.
"That's the price you pay because sometimes that's what you need," he said.
But Gibson hasn't been totally alone.
"Many people have reached out. My goodness. I mean it's … I've been overwhelmed. It almost choked me," he said. "I'm so overwhelmed by the response of … of friends, family and, you know, even the Jewish community. I mean the … the letters and stuff that came in were really encouraging. They … sort of … you know, sort of broke my heart a little bit."
"Because it's like, you know, it's like they understood. There's a lot of compassion out there, so that was … kind of overwhelming for me. … And … don't want to disappoint anyone again," he said.
Now Gibson is trying to heal.
"What I need to do to heal myself and to be assuring and allay the fears of others and to heal them if they had any heart … wounds from something I may have said," he said. "So, this is the last thing I want to be is that kind of monster."