You Know the Koch Brothers: Now Meet the 'Koch Sisters'

Here's why the 'Koch sisters' do not care for the Koch brothers.

ByABC News
October 6, 2014, 9:41 AM
Karen and Joyce Koch are seen in this ad posted on Sept. 22, 2014.
Karen and Joyce Koch are seen in this ad posted on Sept. 22, 2014.
Koch Sisters/YouTube

— -- Joyce and Karen Koch aren’t related to each other. But that’s not important; they’re sisters “in spirit.” Besides, what they really want you to know is that they’re not related to the Koch brothers, the billionaire conservatives funding political candidates and causes nationwide.

Because of their famous surname, Karen, 51, a community college professor in Michigan, and Joyce, 71, a retired Iowa social worker now living in New jersey, were recruited by labor activists at the AFL-CIO to be the faces of the labor group’s “Koch Sisters” ad campaign attacking the reclusive oil and gas tycoons, who consistently oppose climate change legislation, and push for repeal of Obamacare and a balanced budget through Americans for Prosperity, the conservative group they helped start.

After a spate of lighthearted spots, including one in which they banter about establishing an exclusive “Koch lane” in the checkout line, the Koch sisters have filmed a new ad, hitting airwaves in battleground areas including Kentucky and Wisconsin this week, with a more serious tone.

“I think the Koch brothers are really expecting laws to go in their favor,” Karen says in the new 30-second ad, first obtained by ABC News.

“They’re saying, 'I’m going to change the rules, I’m going to change the politicians … It’s going to be my way,'” Joyce says. “I think they expect obedience.”

But in a recent interview, the Koch sisters showcased their more jovial side, dishing on the Koch bros, and their own new-found fame. Here are seven questions we asked them (the interview has been edited for clarity and length):

1. How did the AFL-CIO find you? Were either of you hesitant, or were you immediately on board?

JOYCE: I got a call from a gentleman named Bernie, who told me about this interesting proposition of the “Koch sisters.” I come from a theater and drama background and so I thought, “Well, this is right up my alley.” That’s how they hooked this fish. I was very upfront with the AFL-CIO and I said, “I’m not into politics.” And they were OK with that. I think I’m the sleeping beauty here. They came and gave me a kiss on the forehead and they woke me up, and now I am really interested in politics. And believe you me, I know who the Koch brothers are, and I do not care for them.

2. Do people ever mistakenly assume you’re related to the Koch brothers, or hold the same views?

KAREN: I get asked, “Are you related to the Koch brothers?” And I’m like, “Oh, not on a long shot. Not anything like them.”

3. How have your friends and family reacted to the ad campaign?

KAREN: My husband is not at all a person that divulges a lot of information, so at first he was really upset about [the idea], but since then, he’s like, “I’m really proud that you went ahead with it.” And both of my kids have been enthusiastic. My 20-year-old son, he plays guitar, so he wrote a song about it. He says something like, “a lot of people feel the way you do mom about politics, but I’m glad you went ahead and said it out loud and took the risk.”

JOYCE: I was pleasantly surprised to find out that 90 percent of my relatives are quite liberal and thrilled about this whole thing, getting in touch with me and becoming Koch sisters. But there was a comment; I think it might be on Facebook: I think this one gentleman totally missed the point. He said something along the lines of, “Who made these two women experts? What makes them experts?” I think that’s the point, we’re not experts. We just are regular people that have our opinions.

4. Still waiting for a reaction from the Koch brothers?