Jay Carney Tries 'Turning the Tables' on Jon Karl

ABC White House correspondent presses Obama spokesman on budget strategy.
6:51 | 09/18/13

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Transcript for Jay Carney Tries 'Turning the Tables' on Jon Karl
I'm the president had a substantive discussions preposterous I got this question yesterday I don't have any new conversations to read out to you again I think speaker banners very much engaged in. Trying to deal with what everybody in your business has. Accurately reported as essentially an all out civil war within the Republican Party where -- faction of the party. Is basically at odds with the leadership in making demands. That if acquiesced to could lead us to a shut down or even worse to a default. Decently and leaned back and watch this as -- caller I'll know I think -- president of the United States meeting with business leaders from this country today. Business leaders who have no small amount of influence over. Leaders. In Washington including you might say especially Republican leaders about the need for. Responsible. Compromise when it comes to our budgeting and responsible. Action by congress when it comes simply to extending the debt -- And I think that leaders would tell you that. Even threatening to fault. Is unwise and even as John Boehner said in -- Sean Hannity Hannity threatening to shut down the government. Over obamacare. Is a bad idea. The question really is this question giving up because no we're not. We are making are points every -- see ya on on Monday are actually talking to Republicans may make it look -- complex under assault watching now. -- -- there were -- to Republicans in the room with the president today I'm guessing. Right a -- Highly influential. You know. Card -- Republican Party members who. Have the year of Republican lawmakers and who believe that congress ought to do the responsible thing which is not shut down the government and not allow. The government to default. Your position movies because -- the president's position -- You will not negotiate over -- that's correct. How was that time. -- the west really willing to risk default. The White -- -- here's the thing that you threaten all -- because -- because you are you're saying he wanted to negotiate with Republicans. On on this issue. -- -- tackle and -- hunt who who has the power to raise the debts. Well who has the power to raise the dancing. The car who as an hour also raised its debts have put Florida plane you may call ridiculous reviewing all but they get put forth a plan that congress doesn't power to raise the -- -- willing to negotiate and turning the -- -- can't get a direct answer that congress has the power to residency I'd. -- and. All you have to do is do what they have done hundreds of times before and -- that's him what is it debt ceiling -- debt -- is -- new spending. Raising the debt ceiling doesn't add a dime to the deficit -- I think a lot of -- a lot of the rhetoric. Around it suggests that. It. Has to do with new spending but as everyone in this room understands and everybody on Capitol Hill understands and and I believe a lot of Americans were paying attention understands this is understand this is simply a vote to. Allow congress to pay the bills that congress has already incurred and that is something we have done as a nation for every year of our existence so. What the president. Has said and what. John Boehner. Periodically has publicly agreed -- is that we cannot. Hold the full faith and credit of the United States government hostage to the ideological desires. -- faction of the Republican Party on Capitol Hill. And it is incumbent upon the leaders of that party. To ensure that doesn't happen because. Though he would like to be able to give direction to members of the Republican Party in the house the president can't. Hopefully. The elected leaders of that party in the house -- And negotiate on the -- mean that that's always been raise your right I mean. Countless times but. There's often thank you can take I -- not a -- That their client announced Senator Obama voted 2006 right and we've addressed this many times and there was never a threat of default then what the debt ceiling has been attached to -- get any. -- again and again and again. At the debt ceiling because congress didn't like to take the vote because they knew it was their responsibility to ensure that the debt ceiling would be raised. Would attach raising it that provision that raise the debt ceiling. To other bills that we're going to pass anyway and that with that is what would happen and what we had never seen before in our history is what we saw in 2011. When. The newly empowered leaders. Of the Republican Party in congress insisted that we negotiate. Over raising the debt ceiling and we all saw and you reported on what happened. When they flirted with. Actual default. As opposed to protest votes as opposed to. Attaching -- debt ceiling to some other piece of legislation and holding their noses and voting for this is qualitatively different. There's no arguing that 2011 was different from any other occasion we've seen when the debt -- has come to a vote. And it had severe economic consequences. We cannot allow that to happen again. The president is willing to negotiate over budget policies willing to negotiate over how we reduce our deficit further moving forward as we've reduced it. Significantly since he's been in office. But he's not willing. To negotiate over congress is fundamental responsibility not to default. On its obligations. Assessment tactics we know we wanted to negotiate on those things we said -- along and we have negotiated all yearlong over. How we. Pass a budget congress and in the senate -- Republicans in congress said as part of the end of the year deal New Year's Day deal. That they insisted that they of one of their demands was the senate pass a budget. Just as the house have been passing budgets and that normal regular order would prevail so we we said yes presence that yes democratic leaders in the sense that yes. All of that happened. And then when it happened and Republicans got what they wanted they walked away from the process. So. We're willing and have been -- to negotiate over how we can responsibly reduce our deficit how we can responsibly. Reduce that the costs of entitlements over time. How we can do all that no way that's. Fair and helpful to the middle class but what we want to what the president will not do what he cannot do is negotiate over. The full faith and credit of the United States that should be. An absolute certitude. That congress will not default.

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