particularly the doctors think so. And he's been accused of being --
switching sides too much, and so he has to be at least somewhat
WILL: That's precisely the problem. The Romney of 2012 cycle is
hostage to the Romney of the 2008 cycle. When he changed on an array of
social issues, stem cell research, gay marriage, right to life, all that
stuff. So, now, you can't win for losing here. And the tense of his
verb was everything. He said I did what I believe, present tense, I
believe was right for the people of my state, not that I believed.
WALTER: And even Nikki Haley jumped in--
AMANPOUR: I was going to say, yes.
WALTER: She made a comment in that interview with you--
AMANPOUR: She didn't think he'd gone far enough.
WALTER: You know what, we like candidates who are courageous and do
the right thing, but also admit when they've made some mistakes. But I
do think that George is exactly right, that it's the perception more
than the policy that's the issue.
ROBERTS: But you know, Mitt Romney's problem is not health care.
Mitt Romney's problem is that he's a very stiff candidate that voters
don't relate to. And that's something that he -- I don't think can
AMANPOUR: So generally, we hear that in the Republican Party,
there's sort of a pecking order, and it's sort of viewed as so-and-so's
time next. Do you think that that will be the case next time?
WILL: No, this is the most open scramble on the Republican side
since 1940, when Wendell Wilkie came out of the woodwork and swept the
I think people are complaining that this is not off to a brisk
start. I think that's wrong. I think we know with reasonable certainty
that standing up there on the west front of the Capitol on January 20th,
2013 will be one of three people. Obama, Pawlenty and Daniels. I think
WALTER: But, let's just -- but we do have to remember, too, that
we're talking about Mitt Romney in a vacuum right now, without other
candidates around. So we can put the spotlight on him, but we also have
to put it in context, which is those other candidates and all their
baggage, and we'll get to that.
AMANPOUR: Let's talk about Daniels, because you heard Nikki Haley,
she couldn't say enough about him. Many people are urging him to jump in.
WALTER: Of course they are urging him to jump in. He is--
ROBERTS: Mitch Daniels is a very appealing guy. He was in
Washington for years, which probably will work against him. But it was
something so that -- we all know him, and that sort of helps at this
stage of presidential, you know, wannabe. He's from a state that
matters, and much more quietly than other governors, he has done the
things that are going on in Wisconsin in terms of the public unions. He
has just signed a bill that's cut off aid to Planned Parenthood in his
state. So that even though he said he didn't want to put social issues
front and center, the truth is he's more out there on that issue in
terms of actual policy than anybody else.
WILL: The idea that he's the Hamlet of Indianapolis is absurd.
He's taking his time and he knows that, given the new fund-raising
reality, you can take your time.
He was in Washington recently, and someone said, do you want to run
for president? He says no sane person wants to run for president. But