'This Week' Transcript: Cardinal Timothy Dolan


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Less than 100 days ago that happened. And the entire country was shocked. And the entire country pledged we would do something about it and this time it would be different. Shame on us if we have forgotten. I haven't forgotten those kids. Shame on us if we have forgotten.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Yeah, look at the latest poll from CBS. Support for gun control in December of 2012, 57 percent for new gun control laws, stricter gun control laws, now down to 47 percent, Cory Booker. So shame on who?

BOOKER: Well, shame on us, because the tragedies haven't stopped. There are still thousands of Americans that are being murdered every single day. We had an innocent man in my city injured by a handgun that didn't come from our -- the handguns in my city are not coming from within our state. And so this is very problematic. When you have the majority of the people, 90 percent Americans, 80 percent of gun owners agree on sensible gun reforms that would stop the carnage.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You're talking background checks.

BOOKER: I'm talking background checks. I'm talking punishments against straw purchases. We're talking about secondary markets and making sure -- imagine TSA saying, we're not going to check 40 percent of the people that board our planes. That's what we're doing right now. A terrorist in our country can go to do -- can't get on a plane to go there, but could go to certain areas of our country and buy truckloads full of weapons.

Americans are in agreement on this. And the tragedies continue now.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So where is this going in the House, congressman? We've seen a bunch of Republicans senators come up this week and say they were going to filibuster that legislation in the Senate. Where is it going in the House?

KING: Let me say, I support the president's position on guns. So I'll say that.

Having said that, it's going to be very difficult to get very meaningful legislation through the congress, because despite what the mayor was saying -- I think...

BOOKER: Mayor Bloomberg -- I'm mayor.

KING: Mayor...



KING: Is that -- again, a majority of Americans don't seem to want this type of legislation. And I support it. So I'm -- I am again, supporting legislation on gun trafficking, on background checks, assault weapons, all of that. But I just don't see the intensity building up.

STEPHANOPOULOS: And that's exactly what you're seeing in the Senate right now?

ZELENY: And this is not Senate Republicans here, this is Senate Democrats. I mean, you can go down the lists of Democrats who are running for re-election, who are up for reelection in 2014 who are not supportive of anything beyond background checks. Max Baucus from Montana, Mary Landrieu from Louisiana, et cetera.

So, the president is talking a lot. You know, his event at the White House was a big moment. He's going to out on the stump this week to talk about this as well.

But, behind the scenes, they realized that the assault weapons bans and other things are nonstarters for Democrats.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Anything more he could have done?

VANDEN HEUVEL: The fight is not over. You cite your the CBS poll. Cite your own poll, the ABC poll, which when asked not about stricter gun regulation, but about universal background checks. 90 percent support that. How many things in American do 90 percent of Americans support? 60 percent, military style assault weapon ban.

Listen, the collective, in our collective grief over Newtown we thought things would move in this congress. This congress doesn't move very well. It took five years to pass the Brady Bill in the '90s, a ban on assault weapons and large capacity assault -- magazines. So, I think you're seeing movement, responsible gun owners are being peeled away from the NRA. You're seeing movement. You're seeing a movement.

You're seeing money come in which didn't exist in the '90s, so it couldn't counter the NRA's countervailing, huge amount of money. The movement, I think, will play a role as it did in the '90s to slay this beast. And we will see -- and it will force a vote on certain amendments even if you don't get the assault -- military style assault weapons ban.

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