Now, as it relates to the Supreme Court, we're confident that it's going to be upheld. You had Democratic and Republican jurists upheld it in lower court decisions, including two very prominent conservative jurists. The mandate is an idea supported by the Heritage Foundation, Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, most famously kind of the godfather of the mandate, Mitt Romney. So we're confident that it will be upheld.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK. Let me turn to the issue of gay marriage. The chairman of your convention, Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles, Nancy Pelosi, Democratic leader in the House, 22 senators have all come out for a plank in the Democratic platform supporting gay marriage. I want to show the first sentence right there. It says the Democratic Party supports the full inclusion of all families in the life of our nation, with equal respect, responsibility, and protection under the law, including the freedom to marry.
Now, the president has said he's evolving on the issue of gay marriage, but he's still opposed. Does that mean that he's going to fight the inclusion of this plank in the Democratic platform?
PLOUFFE: Well, as you said, the president has spoken to this issue. I certainly don't have anything to add to that today. But we don't even have a platform committee yet, much less a platform, so that..
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, you do have a draft plank right there.
PLOUFFE: Well, we're going to work through the platform process. Here's what I think is important. What is going to be in the Republican platform, if they're consistent with what their presidential candidates have said, is to re-institute "don't ask/don't tell," to defend aggressively the Defense of Marriage Act. On the other side, you have the president, who's had groundbreaking progress for gays and lesbians in this country.
So I think there's going to be a big difference on these issues of fairness and equality. And obviously, the platform process will play out in the coming months.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But why can't he say what he believes on this issue?
PLOUFFE: Well, George, he has said what he believed. As he said, it's a very -- this is a very important issue. It's a profound issue. He's spoken to this, you know, at -- with great detail. I don't have anything to add to that.
I'm very proud and he's very proud of what he's accomplished, in terms of repealing "don't ask/don't tell," in terms of not defending Defense of Marriage Act, in terms of some of the benefits we're making sure federal employees with same-sex partners get.
So I think he's spoken not -- not just spoken to, but he's delivered some really important victories in terms of fairness for gays and lesbians in this country.
STEPHANOPOULOS: The president also spoke out this week on this horrible killing in Florida of Trayvon Martin, the young man, and it's raised such a -- such a debate all across the country. When the president on Friday came out and said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon," Newt Gingrich took exception. Listen.
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GINGRICH: What the president said, in a sense, is disgraceful. It's not a question of who that young man looked like. Any young American of any ethnic background should be safe, period. We should all be horrified, no matter what the ethnic background. Is the president suggesting that, if it had been a white who'd been shot, that would be OK, because it wouldn't look like him? That's just nonsense.
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