DURBIN: No, I think the top rate needs to go up, and that's where I may disagree with my friend, Lindsey Graham. Remember, during the course of the presidential debate, how many times the president turns to Mitt Romney and said, well, do the arithmetic. How in the world are you going to reduce deductions and generate enough revenue for meaningful deficit reduction? He could never answer the question, because there is no reasonable answer to it. Let the rates go up to 39 percent. Let us also take a look at the deductions. Let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction.
And, yes, from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. Social Security, set aside. Doesn't add to the deficit. But when it comes to Medicare and Medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Graham, let me ask you about the fallout from the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. You've been highly critical of Ambassador Rice, and this week, for the first time, she responded. Take a look.
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RICE: When discussing the attacks against our facilities in Benghazi, I relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. I made clear that the information was preliminary and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Graham, we also learned this week from the director of national intelligence that references to Al Qaida and terrorism in the talking points she was given were taken out by the intelligence officials for security reasons, not by political officials for political reasons. Do you now accept the explanation of Ambassador Rice?
GRAHAM: I don't believe that the best and current intelligence assessment on 16 September was that there was a spontaneous event in Benghazi based on a video that led to a mob that became a riot. The CIA station chief on the day of the attack reported in real time, "We're under attack by Al Qaida affiliates." The president in Libya said on the day of the attack -- excuse me, on 16 September -- Al Qaida was involved. We've got drones. Release the video. We all know what a mob looks like in the Mideast.
I am increasingly convinced -- the FBI interviewed the survivors in Ramstein, Germany, the day after. I'm increasingly convinced that the best and current intelligence assessment on 16 September went against the video. The video was a political smokescreen. The actual facts were this was a coordinated, pre-planned terrorist attack. When the president said on Letterman we think the video caused this, when he said to the U.N. that we're not going to let some hateful video turn the Mideast into a bad spot, that they're not relying on the best and current intelligence assessment...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But, Senator, all the evidence is the ambassador...
GRAHAM: They're pushing a political story.
STEPHANOPOULOS: All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community.