'This Week' Transcript:Two Powerhouse Roundtables

And coming from voices like Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley and Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio gives us some greater credibility in those communities.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Did you think the report got what went wrong for the Republicans?

MESSINA: Absolutely not. Look, I think there is great things in that report. And I think it got it right on the tactics. And I agree with Karl.

The problem is, it misses the entire point. They didn't lose 71 percent of the Latino votes because of tactics. They didn't lose over 60 percent of the youth vote and women by double digits because of tactics or outreach or data. They lost it because they're wrong on the issues and their party has moved so far to the right that they no longer speak to the majority of Americans.

A Pew poll came out this morning, an interesting column saying that the Republican brand is at its lowest ebb in 30 years -- 33 percent approve, 58 percent disapprove. That's not about tactics, that's about issues.

STEPHANOPOULOS: And Andrew Coe (ph) and Peggy Noonan who wrote that report, says that he hasn't seen a situation like this, where a party was so far out of center since the Democrats, Gene McCarthy in 1968.

NOONAN: You know, I tend to think that the go GOP's central problems have to do with things we don't talk all that much about. One is what happened in 2008 and the continuing repercussions of the crash. The repercussions where the party stands, what its positions are on how to create growth, that is becoming in part within the party, a rising disagreement -- not disagreement, but a rising difference of emphasis between those who are saying the way we have to go is growth right now and those who are saying we've got to handle this debt and deficit thing. They're sort of different approaches.

Another is that I think the Republican Party has to make clear what its foreign policy is. It has had two wars for the past 12 years, people are still settling in and thinking -- I mean, the voters have said, we don't like that. We're not for that. The Republican Party has to make clear what it stands for and it's going to have to have a little bit of debate to get there.

So I think those two big things, and the policies that spring from them, will make all of the difference and so will an eventual compelling presidential candidate, somebody who is involved right now is going to work his way through. At the end of the day, it is the candidates who resolve a lot of unresolved things by taking a stand and speaking for forcefully for it.

STEPHANOPOULOS: That was Bill Clinton after Dukakis's loss in '88.

BRAZILE: That was Bill Clinton after Walter Mondale lost, after Jimmy Carter lost. We had a dynamic governor who was reform minded, who took those reform issues and brought them into the national forefront. He really helped recharge the Democratic Party.

But, you know, the Republican Party is out to lunch. I watched CPAC Charl -- I mean Karl.


BRAZILE: Charles was a former friend.

ROVE: I thought I was a current friend.

BRAZILE: But you're always a friend, but you owe me some chili.

ROVE: But you owe me some fried chicken.

BRAZILE: Oh, well I saved your life with malaria (ph) once.

ROVE: There you go. Yes, you did.

BRAZILE: Yes, indeed.


BRAZILE: It's all right, we go back a long way.

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