But there's no question, listening to the roundtable here this morning, that in the end there's going to be so much pressure on him that he's not going to be able to withstand, to split the difference. And that's what's problematic about this White House. Splitting the difference is not leadership.
At some point, you've got to be on one side or the other. He's got to listen to George Will. This issue is beyond left and right. And there are many conservatives who actually recognize that this is imperialism that has absolutely no good point to be made for American national security.
STEPHANOPOULOS: The -- the only thing that probably you and George will -- will agree on in this -- in this season...
WILL: And I wouldn't quite characterize my position as anti- imperialism at this point. But I -- I want to go back to something you said about the narrative.
If there is a narrative that's developing that's -- that's problematic for this presidency, it is the belief that there is a cult -- in which the presidency, president himself, is a communicant -- that is entirely detached from accomplishment, that this is entirely a presentational presidency, and that's where we come down to.
Just -- just -- I mean, the president -- today there are more American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than there were when the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize became president.
BRAZILE: Well, first of all, this is not just about Barack Obama. It's about the movement he represents, the movement for change, the movement that ignited so many ordinary citizens to take to the streets and get out to vote for the first time.
I think the Nobel committee also recognized that this was a new era in American politics, an era that will defined more about our engagement with the rest -- with the rest of the world and not our isolation.
So I think there's something much larger than just giving one man a prize. It's acknowledging that there's something else going on in this country.
HUFFINGTON: But, Donna, you're in touch with this movement, and you know this movement is deeply disillusioned, and this movement is disillusioned on many fronts.
The fact is that, right now, it appears there are two set of laws in America. One applies to Wall Street and the powerful in Washington; and one applies to the rest of America. And it's not clear where Barack Obama is. Increasingly, it appears that it is where Larry Summers and Wall Street is, while millions are losing their jobs, their homes are being foreclosed, their credit cards are being defaulted on. And where he is? Where is his leadership?
BRAZILE: I think that is -- that is, in essence, what the White House must now grapple with as they not only come to a decision about Afghanistan, but as they confront, really, a big problem in this country, and that is the rising number of unemployed Americans.
The movement clearly want the president to act boldly and to take on the status quo and not to allow this need for bipartisan or need to compromise to rule his agenda. That's been the problem.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You know, the -- the chair of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, in his first statement -- and he probably took it a little too far, was a little too sharp, but he did go straight to jobs and the economy. And I think that's why, all things being equal, the White House probably would prefer the Nobel Prize for economics so they could focus more -- more on -- on jobs.