Transcript: Gen. Casey, Steele vs Kaine

So, again, it's -- it's not just leadership; it's ideas.


WILL: ... rise to a point of order.


The -- three Republican ideas that the vast majority of the country support and you people won't tolerate.


WILL: One is tort reform. Your party's in such (inaudible) to the trial lawyers, you can't stand tort reform that would reduce the $100 billion cost of defensive medicine.

BRAZILE: OK, that's 1 percent of medical costs.


WILL: You won't equalize...


WILL: But it's a much larger percentage of Democratic contributions.

You will not equalize the tax treatment of health care purchased in the private market with those who get it through their employers as untaxed compensation.

And most of all, you will not tolerate the idea of people being allowed to buy health care across party lines.

BRAZILE: State lines.


WILL: If I live in New Jersey, I can buy a car in Pennsylvania. I can buy a mortgage in Wyoming. Why can't I buy health care?

BRAZILE: It's simple, George. Because in certain states, you know, what we're going to do to is open it up, the market, to insurance companies that don't give you the same coverage, the same level of coverage or the same options.


BRAZILE: So I don't have a problem with portability, George. But if it doesn't mean better quality and better access, then it's not real...


BRAZILE: ... then it's not real choice.


WILL: You can't trust the individuals to shop for their health insurance?

ROBERTS: Democrats, on these issues, have the voters. The -- and the independents. I mean, on the issues, right now, the majority of people are with the Democrats.

DONALDSON: You say there's a vacuum in the party. You say there's a vacuum in the parties.

LUNTZ: But to go back to the polling numbers, Obama's favorability, approval, on things like the budget, taxes, the deficit and debt, are now in the 30s. And on health care, it's in the very low 40s.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, health care's right down the middle.

LUNTZ: He did have it. They did have it before, but they've been dropping.

And when you introduce a bill that is, no exaggeration, this tall off the ground, and you expect, because the American people really do want to read this stuff, it's 1,900 pages, you can't get through it, the public looks at that legislation and, frankly, it makes them nervous.

DONALDSON: It looks like Reagan's bill in the House in 1981 to lower interest rates. They even had in the margin people's telephone numbers.

You talk about a vacuum in the party. When I came to this town, there were people in the Senate, Republicans, Leverett Saltonstall, John Sherman Cooper, Clifford Case, later Tom (inaudible), Hatfield from Oregon, Chafee.

Where are they today? They're not there. Because your party has driven out the moderates from the party. And you can't have a party that represents this country with the kind of people that now seem to be the voices for the Republicans.

ROBERTS: You know, it's interesting because it used to be that the Democrats had also driven out the moderates from the party.

DONALDSON: Yes. It works both ways.

ROBERTS: But last night's vote really did show you that the Democratic moderates have a tremendous amount of leverage in the House...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Especially on the issue of abortion.

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