Sens. Graham and Cassidy: 'We're moving forward' on health care bill

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, and Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-LA, defend their hotly debated health care bill on "This Week."
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Republicans promised for seven years to repeal and replace Obamacare. With senator McCain's announcement Friday that he can't support the latest GOP proposal, does it still have a chance? Let's go to the co-authors of the bill, Louisiana senator bill casedy, and South Carolina senator Lindsey graham. Senator graham, let's start with you. This bill is seen as the GOP as last attempt to get something done on health care before the September 309 deadline. Your good friend, senator McCain said he won't vote for the bill. How can you make this happen in the little time you have? Number one, the only way know how people will vote is to vote. We thought we had the votes last time. We didn't. It's not about our friendship. I love John McCain. He's an American hero and many my dear friend. I just disagree with him here. My state had a 31% premium increase against Obamacare. If we don't repeal and replace, it's a disaster for south Carolina. I'm a bipartisan guy. I have come to conclude Obamacare is a placeholder for berniecare in the democratic world. The best you could hope for is to prop up Obamacare. Because they're moving toward berniecare. There's not a snowballs a chance to substantially change. Is there a snowball's chance your bill will pass? Yeah, there is. I think Maine, Susan Collins is great senator. They get a 4% increase. The governor of Arizona has come out for this bill. Rand Paul objects to the taxes. When you look at the bill, we save a lot of money over time for medicaid. E we make it more affordable, more flexible. I think senator's Paul associated health plan married up with our bill changes health care. Yes, we're moving forward. We'll see what happens next week. I'm very excited about it. We finally found an alternative that makes sense. Take the money and power out of Washington. The same amount of money we would have spent on Obamacare and let states design systems. The if you keep replicating Obamacare, you get the same outcome. Flexibility and innovation is what we're seeking. Senator Cassidy. Let's get to detail. Senator graham mentioned Susan Collins. Whose vote you're trying to get said she's reading the fine print and says it doesn't protect people are pre-existing conditions. You have the same argument from Jimmy Kim M because the premiums could be so high that it wouldn't be affordable. Show this H someone who is going to come around? One, that's absolutely incorrect. President trump said he will not sign a bill that doesn't protect those with pre-existing conditions. I'm a physician who worked in a hospital for 25 years caring for those with pre-existing conditions. A state wishes too do something different, they must first establish that those with pre-existing conditions have access to affordable and adequate coverage. Two things more. Affordable, how do you define it? It means able to afford. Now, contrast that with status quo. If you're not getting subsidies right now on the exchanges, your premiums with be -- How is that decided, who can afford snit how is that decided? What is adequate and affordable care? That's what people are complaining about. If I may, we have understatus quo, family with a child paying $32,000 a year. We're being cared to somebody with a preem use plus dediktable approaching $40,000. If I were to say to you, I'm going buy a car that I can afford. You would have a good sense of what sit. So we give the states the latitude to establish, it may be someone who is a millionaire would lay more and someone lower income would pay less. Do you really know this? You don't have a full cbo report. That's a complaint as well. How do you know? If you're speaking of the language that it has to have access to adequate and affordable health care, that's not related to the cbo. That's contrasting with the status quo in which people are playing $0,000 to $40,000 out of pocket. I want to go back to senator graham. Quite an extraordinary statement from major physician, hospital, insurance groups yesterday, including blue cross, blue shield. While we sometimes disagree on important issues in health care, we are in tote. Agreement that Americans deserve a stable health care market that provides access to high-quality care and affordable coverage for all. The graham-cassidy-heller-johnson bill does not move us toward that goal. An extraordinary statement. It's extraordinary that the insurance companies would willingly allow that money to be given to state governments to design new and innovative systems. The fact that insurance companies are objecting to the fact that they no longer get payments directly from the federal government. Doesn't surprise me. I would have been surprised if these people were for our bill because we take money away there them, give to it state governments to design systems that will deliver a better outcome. Let me just say this. If we move the money and power out of Washington and don't allow flexibility, we require the states to do what Obamacare is doing, how can you get a different result? This system is collapsing all over the place. The big winners are hospitals and people that get direct payments from the government. I want to take that block of money, give it to governors at the state level. If you don't like what you get under Obamacare who do you complain to? Under our bill, if you don't like the health care you're receiving, complain to your state house member, to your governor, who cares about you, because they want your vote. If this fails, what will you tell people about your promise to repeal and replace Obamacare? That I did everything I could. I'm not going to stop fighting. I'm on the budget condition. Johnson son the budget committee. We're not going to vote for a budget resolution that doesn't allow the health care debate to continue. I thing we'll get the votes next week. We're using the exact same process the Democrats did to pass Obamacare. They complained about a process they used. They're never going to give in to changing Obamacare. They're going to single payer health care. There is no bipartisan solution to health care that changes Obama kair because tlooir a stakeholder single payer health care. We have to speed this up. If they did to pass it. The fight goes on is a fight worth having. Thank you very much to both of you. Let's turn to before nard J.

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