'This Week' Transcript: Lon Snowden, Donald Trump

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let's talk about the one coming right now, 30 -- September 30, the government runs out of funding. You've got people like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, other Republicans -- Marco Rubio -- saying unless Obamacare is defunded, then we're going -- we shouldn't approve the government funding.

President Obama took that on Friday.


OBAMA: My friends in the other party have made the idea of preventing these people from getting health care their holy grail, their number one priority, the one unifying principle.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Those aren't the only things that seemed to get the president really riled up on Friday. George Will says it's an ideological fixation. How does it play out? Do you believe that faction inside the Republican Party is going to succeed in pushing their leaders to hold the line?

GOHMERT: Boy, that's a false narrative. He said that we're trying to keep people from having health care, that's just not true. That is an absolute, blatant lie. We're not trying to keep anybody from getting health care. And whether or not they have insurance under an exchange or not does not prevent people from getting health care.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Want to take that on?

CASTRO: Well, sure. The fact is you have millions and millions of Americans that can't afford health insurance. Obamacare is helping people get health insurance. Republican haves offered no solutions or plans.

GOHMERT: Oh, we have plenty of them...

CASTRO: But at this point, Louis, it's just ideology. It's just extreme ideology.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Does the government shut down on September...

WILL: The congressman says that's a lie. Remember when Mark Twain said the difference between a lie and a cat is a cat only has nine lives. The fact is the president has the power, particularly when supported as this one is by the mainstream media to set the narrative. And the narrative will be that the Republicans have chosen simply to cause chaos. And I think it's a bad idea.

STEPHANOPOULOS: It's a bad idea to go down the line.

WILL: You can not govern the country from one-half of the three branches of government. Can't be done.

STEPHANOPOULOS: It appears, Donna, that Speaker of the House John Boehner probably agrees with that as well. Mitt Romney came out this week, one of his few public speeches since leaving saying -- warning Republicans about being accused of shutting down the government.

BRAZILE: Well, look, Mitt Romney, of course, Romneycare is Obamacare. They're not what I call distant relatives, but they might be, you know, kisses cousins. But he came out in support of John McCain and others who believe that this is a foolish idea try to shut the government down. And of course, many of the veterans of previous government shutdowns -- Newt Gingrich and others, are also, you know, speaking out as well.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So, what's going to happen?

GOHMERT: Well, I don't know. But I do think that even though we're one-half of the legislating body from which no spending occurs unless we agree, that is a position that allows us to force others to adhere to the constitution. We don't have to wait for the Supreme Court. We can force that.

And we can say you're going to abide by the constitution whether the Supreme Court gets it wrong or right, we have the ability to force respect for the law, and some of us think that we ought to force them to do that.

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