'This Week' Transcript: Former President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush, Lt. General Ken Keen and USAID Chief Rajiv Shah.

TAPPER: Health care reform is -- is coming close to final negotiations. And one of the big points in this has been some concessions that labor unions exacted for support for this -- for this health care reform bill, specifically in terms of a delay before those who have so-called Cadillac plans are taxed on that plan. Until 2018, they have time to renegotiate with management, because a lot of them negotiated better health care in lieu of higher wages.

This type of negotiation, behind the scenes, is not what President Obama promised when he was campaigning. He promised it would be an open negotiation.

BRAZILE: Well, Jake, the fact is, is that we've had so many -- we've had congressional hearings. We've had congressional markups. We've had floor debate. We've had...

TAPPER: But we have -- but we have that every...


BRAZILE: We've had town hall meetings. We're at the -- we're at the finish line. And what -- what Democrats are trying to do is now pull all of these various pieces together and present one final bill that can go to CBO, get scored, and then take it to the vote -- take it to the floor for a final vote. That's what this is about.

And if this Republicans want to campaign against all of these good items in this bill, then bring it on. Bring it on.

WILL: I want to befriend Donna's friends here, because they have an insuperable problem. They're trying to pass a bill that is, A, huge, B, radical, C, unpopular...


WILL: ... and, therefore, D, they have no choice but to resort to serial corruption, beginning with -- beginning with the carve-out for Medicare Advantage people primarily in Florida, followed by the $300 million bribe to get Senator Landrieu's vote in Louisiana, followed by the $1 billion over a decade purchase of Senator Nelson's vote from Nebraska, followed by the payoff to the unions, which is the least they could get, considering that they have given $400 million to Democrats.


BRAZILE: ... Republicans do, too, when they're in charge.


WILL: ... industry was last seen in this town rallying around a special fundraiser for Mrs. Coakley in Massachusetts.

VANDEN HEUVEL: First of all, I wish that these negotiations, health care negotiations, would be on C-SPAN. The idea that this bill is radical is laughable. Medicare for all, which is part of the DNA of our country, should be what is on the table. Instead, this has been diluted, mostly by lobbyists and by obstructionist Democrats, too, I will admit.

The deal, though, that labor got is good for all middle-class Americans, middle-class Americans who have been shafted in these last eight years under Bush and Cheney.

WILL: It's not good for at least the 70 percent of Americans who are not in unions.


VANDEN HEUVEL: And, you know, the clean, simple thing, George, which would raise your hair on end, is if there had been a surcharge on the wealthy. I believe the wealthy in this country could afford to pay a little more, and it shouldn't be a burden on the middle class. And these are not Cadillac benefits. Let's not use that term. These are Chevy, if that. They...


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