SAADI GADHAFI: Yes, but the people -- everybody wants more. There is no limit. You give this, then you get asked for that, you know?
AMANPOUR: What do you think is happening to your region?
SAADI GADHAFI: An earthquake.
AMANPOUR: An earthquake?
SAADI GADHAFI: An earthquake. It's a fever. It's going to spread everywhere. No one can -- will stop it. This is my personal opinion. And the chaos will be everywhere.
AMANPOUR: You think it will be chaos? Or you think it will be a fever of freedom and democracy? SAADI GADHAFI: No, no, no, no. They think it's about freedom. Everybody loves freedom. I love freedom, you love freedom. But it's much more powerful, this earthquake. No one can control it.
AMANPOUR: Will your father leave?
SAADI GADHAFI: I think it's -- if he -- let's say if he has to leave today, if he leaves today, today, just one hour later, local war, civil war in Libya.
AMANPOUR: You have traveled a lot. You've lived in other countries. When you see the kind of life, the kind of freedoms, the kind of democracy that other people have, did it make you think that people here should have it? How did you feel coming back here?
SAADI GADHAFI: Of course. This is the main thing. This is the main issue for bothering -- this thing is bothering me every day.
AMANPOUR: Is it hard being Gadhafi's son?
SAADI GADHAFI: I have to deal with it. I would like to be myself. I would like to be just Saadi.
AMANPOUR: My exclusive interviews with Colonel Gadhafi's two sons, Saadi and Saif. And you've heard them both dismiss the fact that lots of this country has fallen to the opposition.
We're now going to my colleague, Jeremy Bowen, of BBC, our partner station, who has just returned from Zawiyah, not far from this capital.
Jeremy, who is in control of Zawiyah?
JEREMY BOWEN, BBC CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christiane, the center of Zawiyah, as I would say, demonstrators there today, a couple of thousand who were in the main square. They've got a tank. They've got some heavy weapons there as well. And they're in control of that part of the town.
Now, bizarrely, the Libyans brought this to this particular place. We saw there that they were in control, having what they called a "revolution of honor." But now the Libyans taken us to see various counter-demonstrations. At this moment we're stuck in the middle of the highway, where there are people in pickups and waving green flags and portraits of Colonel Gadhafi, and expressing their great loyalty to him.
But Zawiyah, the center, is in the hands of rebels.
AMANPOUR: And does it look like they're preparing to push forth towards us here in Tripoli? Towards the capital?
BOWEN: Oh, no, they don't have that kind of capability. These are -- you know, I used the word rebels. What they are are local guys in the main, I would say. I spoke to lots of people there who -- police officers who changed sides. There were some doctors, just regular people from that particular town.
They've set up a little first aid station in the mosque. They've burned down the institute for the study of Colonel Gadhafi's Green Book. And they point out proudly that next to it, the bank, has been left untouched. They're all local people there. They have no plans to push, no ability to push forward towards Tripoli.
What they're trying to do is hang on to what they have.