'This Week' Transcript: Timothy Geithner


DONALD TRUMP, REALITY TV STAR: If I decide to run, and if I win, I will not be raising taxes but will be taking in billions of dollars from other countries, and will be creating vast numbers of productive jobs, productive. Productive. And will rebuild our country. The United States will be great again.


AMANPOUR: And welcome back to our "Roundtable." So quickly, does Donald Trump have a chance? Is this a real candidacy?

DOWD: He has a chance, just like everybody has a chance. But the ability for him to go from celebrity to politician, yes, I think is going to be very, very, very hard. I don't think -- I think in the end, his best day happened the day he started this process and everything else from there will be downhill.

AMANPOUR: And while the candidates entered the race quite quietly, Mitt Romney. And he's busy trying to run away from his health care program. But as governor of Massachusetts, it's working, isn't it?

PATRICK: It's working brilliantly. We are -- over 98 percent of our residents have health insurance today, over 99 percent of children. It has added 1 percent to state spending. And we've got our next chapter, which is to bring the system costs down, and get those costs passed on to rate-payers.

But, you know, as an expression of our values in Massachusetts, that health is a public good, and that everyone deserves access to care, we're there. And we have got more to do, but really proud of it.

AMANPOUR: In the "new Medicaid," as it has been laid out under the Ryan proposal, it gives big block grants to the states, right? Is that good? Will that help? Will that help somebody like Governor Patrick?

RIVLIN: Only if it has conditions on it. Now I'm not worried about Governor Patrick's state, but there are certainly states that would run away from their responsibilities to low income Americans.

So, if one were to go the block grant route on Medicaid, one would have to have very strong controls on the amount of spending, and that would not allow states to just say, well, we're going to forget about poor people.

AMANPOUR: And let me get to another big issue that came up this week. Secretary Clinton talked about what's going on in the rest of the world, in the Middle East and elsewhere, saying, unless one's careful, this revolutionary fervor could turn into a mirage in the desert.

Right now, the United States is locked in literally combat to get Gadhafi out. There are all sorts of reasons that people are saying the United States should really commit its major assets, for instance, tank-busting, helicopters, the kinds of planes and aircraft that they need in order to break the stalemate. Why wouldn't they do it?

WILL: Because that's not why we're there. It seems almost (ph) niggling to call attention to the fact that we went in to protect the people of Benghazi.

AMANPOUR: Right. But there's a medieval siege around Misrata right now.

WILL: Christiane, this is the 50th anniversary of the Bay of Pigs invasion, I never thought I'd live to see a more feckless use of American power, but lo and 'hold, you live long enough, you get to see something like Libya.

We have no coherent exit strategy because we have no coherent objective, other than to get someone else to overturn the existing Libyan government so that people we don't know can take over.

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