'This Week' Transcript: After the Tragedy


GERI HILLS: Yes, standing here, today, brings me back to my beginning of this journey 16 years ago when my younger brother, Officer Adam Hills, was shot and killed in similar circumstances. He was off duty. And the shooter involved had a long history of mental health. He, also, used a semi-automatic weapon with an expanded clip. And, now, we're here 16 years later, and we're still talking about expanded clips, and mental health issues, and the right to bear arms. And I just wonder how many more of these do I have to attend? You ask what our takeaway is?

My takeaway is I pray I never have to come to another meeting like this, again. I have sat over the last 15 years my own experience. I have sat with families in Columbine, and Virginia Tech, and Otis Smith, here in Arizona, who lost her beautiful daughter Shannon, who we pat Shannon's Law in memory of. And it's time for this country to have a serious conversation and forget about being a Democrat or a Republican or a gun owner or a non-gun owner. As the President called us to on Wednesday, we need to do better. We can do better. And we can find common ground to stop this from happening.


AMANPOUR: Let -- let me ask you, Ken Badger about your -- you tackled the gunman. You also own a gun, yourself.

BADGER: My wife who's sitting right over here when our son, who is now 21 was born, she made me get rid of my .38. I do have a shotgun and -- and I do support, you know, that we need to have guns.

AMANPOUR: You say we need to have guns. That's -- that's the right. But what I want to know is have you changed your opinion in terms of who should be able to have them and whether there should be more rigorous control over who's able to get them in the wake of this incident that you are so --

BADGER: Yes. I definitely have. Because I was one that said, you know, I don't understand how an individual like this who applies to get in the military and is turned down from getting into the military, he can go purchase a gun.

I mean, there's something wrong with our laws and I think that's where we need to look at the -- at the laws.

AMANPOUR: Congressman, the lady back there told David Muir that it's time to have an honest debate in this community and perhaps in the country about this. Is that possible on this issue?

REP. RAUL GRIJALVA: I think we have to have this debate. This should be possible. As painful as that debate might be to some, it is essential. We have to talk about the issue of access. And that's not undercutting the second amendment at all, but who? And then we have to talk about, I think, munitions, the magazine, the caliber. These are all fair discussions to have now. MUIR: Christiane, Trent Humphries is a Tea Party member and I'm curious, Trent, if you could stand for just a moment.

The Congresswoman supported the second amendment. She had a gun. And I'm curious when you hear this that there needs to be debate from democrats and republicans in the room where you see this heading forward?

TRENT HUMPHRIES: Well, I mean, we talk about the other things too is we talk about how come nobody could be aware this man had a medical history of -- of that. But HIPAA laws would prevent that. It's not just gun laws that are standing in the way of this happening.

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