Blagojevich: There were a lot of different candidates that I explored. And, again, the full story will come out at the appropriate time. Do you have any suggestions on who I might have been thinking about? What have you heard?
Sawyer: I've heard Oprah [Winfrey].
Blagojevich: That is true.
Sawyer: Did you call Oprah? Were you talking to her? Is this something you were just thinking?
Blagojevich: No, the idea came to me from a friend and then among the considerations we discussed whether or not it made any sense. She seemed to be someone who had helped Barack Obama in a significant way become president. She was obviously someone with a much broader bully pulpit than other senators. She probably wouldn't take it, and then we talked about if you offered it to her how would you do it in a way it looked like it wasn't a gimmick to embarrass her.
Sawyer: These tapes, another way, when you look at them, is there anything in them that I guess horrifies you that the people of Illinois deserve something better than hearing this from their governor on tape?
Blagojevich: No, I think they should hear the whole story and will see a governor who was trying to position and maneuver to create jobs and expand health care and the decision was a selfless decision. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
Sawyer: If they do vote to impeach ...
Blagojevich: They will. The fix is in.
Sawyer: If they vote, are you gone?
Sawyer: You will not be governor on Monday?
Blagojevich: Well, it depends on what their timetable is, but I'll suspect it'll be relatively soon. The fix is in. They've decided on a process that will deny me the opportunity to bring witnesses in like the president's chief of staff, U.S. senators and others who I discussed the senate seat with to prove my innocence.
Sawyer: What about the criminal case? Do you actually fear prison?
Blagojevich: I know what the truth is, and I believe the truth will ultimately prevail here. Unfortunately, it's gotten lost in the frenzy and unfortunately in America today, the media and everyone else seems to just rush to judgment and have denied me the presumption of innocence, and what they've done is denied the people of Illinois that twice elected me governor an opportunity to have their governor make his case and defend himself because they chose me. These lawmakers did not.
Sawyer: As you know, Mrs. Blagojevich is also on these tapes and some people in the columns have said she's like Lady MacBeth in the background urging you on particularly in an instance with the Chicago Tribune to allegedly fire some people on the Chicago Tribune in exchange for giving them financial assistance for what they want to do with Wrigley Field. I just want to ask in personal terms, how is Mrs. Blagojevich? What is her role in this? How is she this morning?
Blagojevich: Well, she's caring for our children. She is unfortunately depicted in a light that is obviously not her. You know there's a phrase from a poem from Rudyard Kipling that says, "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, and stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools."