Transcript: White House Senior Advisor David Plouffe

But the U.S. -- we've got to put -- there's not -- there's not much we can do about that. And it's going to -- we're going to once again take some more blows, like the high oil prices, like the events in Japan. If we don't do something about our growth -- that is our -- over the next five years, our number-one issue is not how do we cut. It's, how do we grow? That's the most important thing. And we've got to have a seriousness about that that so far we do not have.

AMANPOUR: That is the issue all over the world. How do we grow? So we've got a minute left. Prescription for growth?

GOOLSBEE: I mean, I think it's focus on investment, whether it's sign free-trade agreements, putting a focus on experts, and shifting away from consumer spending and residential construction as the drivers. That's the only way you get broad-based growth in the country.

EL-ERIAN: So I would go one step further. Recognize that the world is changing very rapidly, step back, decide where you want to go, and come up with structural changes. Get housing to work again. Get credit to work again. Get infrastructure in place. And get the labor market to work again. Structural, structural, structural.

AMANPOUR: Austan sort of says let's not focus so much on consumer demand. Let's focus on -- on getting this growth going. Isn't the whole -- one of the big problems the psychology of consumers? Even with low interest rates, they're looking not to -- to be able to do it?

FREELAND: There's the psychology of consumers, though. It's also the psychology of businesses, right? I mean, one of the stories right now is, businesses have a huge amount of money on their balance sheets. Companies are rich, and they are not investing. So that's what I would focus on.

AMANPOUR: All right.

WILL: Austan says exports. The administration right now is persecuting the biggest exporter the country has, Boeing. Stop doing harm. Let's start there.

AMANPOUR: And we'll continue this in the green room.

And coming up, Rick Perry on the ropes.


PERRY: Yep, there may be slicker candidates and there may be smoother debaters, but I know what I believe in, and I'm going to stand on that belief every day. I will guide this country with a deep, deep rudder.


AMANPOUR: Can the new frontrunner come back from a shaky debate performance? Or is Chris Christie waiting in the wings to steal his thunder? The roundtable is next.



CHRISTIE: What do I have to do short of suicide to convince people I'm not running? Apparently, I actually have to commit suicide.


I'm not running for president

SAWYER: Categorically not running?

CHRISTIE: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how else to put it, Diane. I mean, the answer is, no, I'm not doing it.

I'm 100 percent certain I'm not going to run.


AMANPOUR: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has absolutely unequivocally ruled out running for president this year, but over the past 24 hours, calls for him to enter the race have hit fever pitch. So will he take the plunge?

With me today, George Will, ABC News political director Amy Walter, Republican strategist Mary Matalin, and Democratic strategist Donna Brazile. I should say "George Will again. Thank you for continuing here.

And will Chris Christie be a stronger candidate than Perry? Will he jump in?

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