Transcript: 10 Freshmen Lawmakers Talk With Diane Sawyer


PAUL GOSAR: First of all-- Congress should not be exempt from rules they pass. And that's exactly what-- what happened here. In fact, I asked everybody to denounce that. Because we shouldn't be taking that-- unlike anybody else in-- regular, everyday America.

FRANK GUINTA: I-- I'm not taking the health insurance either-- maybe for different reasons. But I want to go back to the point you were talking about earlier. This is not Nancy Pelosi versus the new Republicans. This is the will of the people. And the people spoke in our country. They do not like government-run mandated health care.

And the point that was made that we are resilient is 100 percent accurate. And we've got to start being personally responsible, rather than always looking for a government solution. Government has a role, but it should be limited, it should be effective, it should be efficient. I think most Americans respect that.

DIANE SAWYER: The rest of you who are not renouncing it, how do you answer this?

MIKE LEE: There's a big difference between receiving health insurance through one's employer on the one hand, and on the other hand, establishing a national regulatory program that tells people where to go to do-- to the doctor and how to pay for it. And they-- they-- they are nonequivalent. They're not economical equivalents, they're not regulatory-- equivalents.

DIANE SAWYER: If-- if the taxpayer doesn't have an option but to support--

MIKE LEE: Look--

DIANE SAWYER: The taxpayer has no choice.

MIKE LEE: Health care regulation is fundamentally a-- an-- a creature of state law. It's states that license doctors, and nurses, and clinics, and hospitals. It's states that regulate the health insurance industry that establish the tort law system that government medical malpractice suits. States are in the best position to be able to regulate the provision of medical services.

And there are huge disparities. There's tremendous diversity among the states, including my own state, where it costs about half to provide health care to-- a citizen over the course of a year than it does in Washington D.C. States need to be able to respond to differences in their demographics, in their geography, and-- and in other conditions within their state. This is a state issue.


You know there's an attending physician downstairs in the building here, which I don't know that many Americans have in their office places. There's an attending physician available for you. Going to keep it, going to cut it out?

MIKE LEE: Those members who choose to visit that doctor for treatment pay for it the same way that it would-- their other doctor.

DIANE SAWYER: But it's subsidized.

MIKE LEE: My understanding is that they've calculated out the-- the price of it, and it's-- it's-- it's calculated out to be your per capita show--

SCOTT TIPTON: You know, actually, though, Diane, going back to Obamacare, that's part of the problem with Obamacare. It was originally that affordability and accessibility. Where was the accessibility for-- people in my district? It's not there. That's the problem that we've really got to be dealing with and focusing on.

FRANK GUINTA: I mean, affordability. I don't think anyone in America feels that the cost of health insurance has decreased since this bill--

MALE VOICE: It's having the opposite effect.

FRANK GUINTA: --been signed into law.

FRANK GUINTA: It-- it-- exactly. Health insurance premiums are increasing.

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