AMANPOUR: You mentioned the Wall Street protests. I tried to ask David Axelrod, is that something that the president, the Democratic Party can harness? Is it, do you think?
MARCUS: But I -- I agree with David that it's not quite gelled yet. I think that what the -- last week, I watched some focus groups of Wal-Mart moms. They were not about to go to Wall Street protests, but the thing that was fascinating was that they expressed a lot of the same anger and frustrations that you hear in these Wall Street protests. They hated the banks. They didn't understand why the banks were getting bailouts and nothing was being done, as they saw it, to help them. They were furious with politicians in Washington. And to the extent and somebody -- that the Wall Street protests reflect that anger and that somebody can harness that energy, it could be a political force.
AMANPOUR: We're just going to go now to Colin Moynihan, who works for the New York Times, and has been and is now down at those protests. Colin, you've been there virtually every day since this began. How is this movement or is it sort of harnessing itself? Is it any clearer or is it still just people there frustrated, as we've been talking about?
MOYNIHAN: Well, I think that many of the protesters would say that their mere presence is their message. And over the last couple of weeks, there have been more and more folks joining in down here. I think their sense of themselves is -- I think they're becoming more confident about the fact that they're here and they're getting attention from others.
AMANPOUR: Do you think they are something that can benefit the Republican -- sorry, the Democratic Party, President Obama? Or do they sort of lump all of that in with Wall Street, as well?
MOYNIHAN: I think that they are resistant to sort of being identified with either party. You know, they've gone out of their way to say that they don't consider themselves to be a political party. They're not forming a platform; they're not doing anything like that.
I think to the degree that they help one party or another, they may be a little more beneficial, at least at this point, to the Democrats, because their message is anti-corporate. But there's no guarantee that that person -- you know, people's perceptions of that are going to stay the same.
AMANPOUR: And what are they saying now? Are they going to stay for a long time? I mean, there was this whole fracas about a possible cleanup and evicting them temporarily. They're still there. What do they say about how long they're prepared to stay there?
MOYNIHAN: Sure. Well, they've been saying all along, their stay is going to be indefinite. I mean, they're trying to make plans to stay through the winter, to prepare for cold weather, and to make it into the spring. I mean, there's no way, of course, to know whether this is going to happen, but this appears to be what they're aiming for at this time. And they show no signs of packing up their tents and their sleeping bags and leaving on their own.
AMANPOUR: Colin, thank you very much, indeed, for joining us from down there. Jon?
KARL: The idea that, you know, the anti-Wall Street is going to be the centerpiece of Barack Obama's campaign, which is something that David Plouffe suggested recently, is a little...
AMANPOUR: But David Axelrod didn't.