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Carter Rips Cheney's 'Abysmal' Iraq Record

Says V.P. Has Often Been Wrong; Also Expresses Surprise at 'Personal' Attacks Over His Recent Book

Carter: I don't see any present prospect that any member of the U.S. Congress, the House or Senate, would say, "Let's take a balanced position between Israel and the Palestinians and negotiate a peace agreement." I don't see any possibility...

Stephanopoulos: No member?

Carter: I don't know of any. There may be two or three members. Because it's almost politically suicidal in the United States for a member of the Congress who wants to seek reelection to take any stand that might be interpreted as anti- policy of the conservative Israeli government, which is equated, as I've seen it myself, as anti-Semitism. And one reason I wrote the book was just to precipitate a discussion or a debate or question. And I think...

Stephanopoulos: Well, you have gotten that, certainly.

Carter: That has been accomplished.

Stephanopoulos: No question about that. Of course, the whole country is also talking about Iraq.

Carter: Yes.

Stephanopoulos: You called it one of the biggest mistakes in U.S. history -- foreign policy mistakes in U.S. history.

Carter: Yes.

Stephanopoulos: How far should Congress go right now to stop the war?

Carter: I would like to see the Congress -- the Democratic Congress unanimously and (inaudible) publicly endorse every aspect of the Hamilton-Baker committee report. I think it is sound; it's solid. It calls for withdrawal, carefully, from Iraq, turning over responsibility to the Iraqi government, whatever it is, and at the same time having all of the nations that surround Iraq, including Syria and Iran, and obviously Egypt and Saudi Arabia and so forth, to assure the Iraqi people that, "As the United States withdraws from your -- from the primary role of your occupying power, that all of us will help you regain control over your economic and social and political and military affairs." The other thing is, that's important, that the stalled or abandoned peace process between Israel and the Palestinians must be rejuvenated.

Stephanopoulos: Would you be for cutting off funding for the mission?

Carter: Not for -- not for troops already over there, no. But I would be willing to see a limit on funds that would apply to an increase in funds -- in troops.

Stephanopoulos: So, capping the level of troops?

Carter: Absolutely.

Stephanopoulos: Vice President Cheney, this week, has been very harsh on those kinds of measures in the Congress.

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Cheney: "If we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Jack Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate the Al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda strategy is to break the will of the American people.

Carter: Well, if you go back and see what Vice President Cheney has said for the last three or four years concerning Iraq, his batting average is abysmally low. He hasn't been right on hardly anything, in his prediction of what was going to happen; reasons for us going over there. And obviously, this is not playing into the hands of Al Qaida or the people who are causing violence and destruction over there, to call for a change in policy in Iraq.

Stephanopoulos: You know, I've heard a lot of complaints recently that this presidential campaign is starting too early. And I think people who say that have short memories.

(LAUGHTER)

We went back and looked -- and maybe this is the unofficial start of the year '76 campaign -- you're on "What's My Line?" in December of 1973.

[INSERT: "WHAT'S MY LINE"]
Moderator: "Panel, all I can tell you about Mr. X is that he provides a service and let's begin the questioning with Arlene Francis."

Arlene Francis: "Is it a service that has to do with women?"

Carter: "Yes, it certainly does." (laughter)

Female panelist: "Mr. X has a very spiritual aura. Does he recruit nuns?" (laughter)…

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