Transcript: Sens. Durbin and Kyl

BRAZILE: Well, you know, we all know candy is much quicker than Viagra, but that's another conversation between you and I.

DONALDSON: "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker." Remember Ogden Nash?


BRAZILE: But -- but, so far, $200 billion has been spent. And there's another $600 billion that's somewhere in the pipeline. This was not meant to be a four-month program, but, rather, a two-year program, the first part to help rescue the economy in a free fall. And now, this next part is meant for a recovery.

ROBERTS: But there is no political will for other stimulus.

STEPHANOPOULOS: There's no question about that.

ROBERTS: So it seems to me...

STEPHANOPOULOS: Not right now. It could change.

ROBERTS: But, I mean, it seems to me what they need to do is just make sure that unemployment compensation is extended for the people who are out of work.

And apparently, according to the president's own op-ed this morning, he plans to come out this week and talk about long-term fixes like making our education system better, the community college system better, all of that.


ROBERTS: And, of course, that is something that will make a difference in the long run. But that is a very long run.

STEPHANOPOULOS: He also says health care is part of that, but we heard Senator Kyl say that's a job-killer.

WILL: Well, we don't know. And I'm not sure we're going to know. Because they're $1 trillion short on how to pay for that.

But, Donna, more of today's stimulus money will be spent in 2011 than in 2009. Why is that?

Well, defenders of the Obama administration say, and they're right, government's terrible at this. It takes so long. And there's so many requirements and so many set-asides and so many environmental impacts statements, it just can't act quickly.

Well, good. Now that we have -- we're all on the same page that government is not very nimble or efficient at this, should we really go on and expand the government?

DONALDSON: Well, George...


WILL: One more thing, Sam.


Bob says, what is the stimulus accomplishing?

I rise in defense of the stimulus because it's accomplished one thing. And that is it's sent so much money to state and local governments to prevent unionized public employees, which are the base of your party, Donna, from suffering the same kind of sacrifices that private-sector employees...

STEPHANOPOULOS: So it is saving jobs...


BRAZILE: You would rather see 14,000 school teachers in New York laid off, 14,000 schoolrooms that go closed in order to give back -- no, this -- this money has been used to not just create and save jobs at the state and local levels, but also to help states cover their budget shortfall, in terms of Medicaid spending, which has been increasing.


ROBERTS: Right. I mean, that's why Mark Sanford was in trouble in South Carolina his...


ROBERTS: ... before his peccadillos became public, because of rejecting the stimulus, because of school teachers. It was all about school teachers. DONALDSON: But if government is terrible about this, your answer seems to be, let's just stop. Let's give up, in a sense; let the marketplace work, eventually. And that's unacceptable.


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