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'This Week': Obamacare Deadline Day

Rep. Tom Cole, Rep. Keith Ellison, Peggy Noonan, and David Plouffe on the deadline to fix HealthCare.gov.
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Good morning, and welcome to "this week." Deadline drama. The website iworking better. So, check it out. Today is the day for the health care website. Is it mission accomplished or is obama care beyond repair? All of the breaking details, debate and analysis, plus the political fallout, from our powerhouse roundtable. Then, battle of wills. U.S. Faces new challenges with china, afghanistan and iran, can am prevail? How will the president manage these multiple crises? An exclusive look at obama's strategy. Plus, it's america's game. Helmet goes flying. But on this thanksgiving weekend, new questions about the dangers, should you let your kids play? And bono. There's a chance of having the first aids-free generation. Our exclusive interview. All that, right here, on this sunday morning. Good morning. Hope you all had a great thanksgiving weekend. We have a lot to get to this morning. Starting with that deadline for obama care. Hard to imagine a more shaky launch, we're learning that at one point the white house considered scrapping the site and starting all over again. In a brand-new report, the white house says the website is meeting its goals and working smoothly for the vast majority of users. Abc's rebecca jarvis is tracking the story. Reporter: Good morning, george. This is the eight-page report. It says they have now fixed 400 bugs in the system since the launch, 90%, more than 90% of the time, it's working, it's stablem, and they believe at any given moment at time, more than 50,000 users can access the system. What's still unclear from this report is, what happens if it's a bigger number, if it's 250,000 users at a given moment in time, that's where things stood when the website initially launched and had all of those issues. And we also learned, rebecca of another delay in the program. The delay is on the small business side. As far as that business mandate goes for small businesses, they will hanow have their mandate delayed for a year. As far as that business mandate goes, they now have their mandate delayed for a year. That individual mandate remains in place if you sign up for health care through the exchange BY DECEMBER 23rd, YOU SHOULD BE COVERED BY JANUARY 1st. I also spoke with the white house official yesterday who said the enrollment numbers are going to come in much stronger than october, the question is, is it good enough? That is the question. Because, at the current rate, the rate that we know that this website is running at, if they want to get 7 million people signed up, it will fall short of that number. We're looking at about 1 million people at the current rate signed up in the amount of time they're expecting. That could mean for future issues as far as the mandate is concerned, for people and the cost of their insurance, the pool, if it's primarily dominated by older, sicker members, ultimately those premiums will go by 2015. Rebecca jarvis, thank you very much. Let's bring in tom cole of oklahoma and keith ellison. They're here along with peggy noon noonan, david plouffe, welcome to you all. Peggy, we heard those numbers from the white house right now. The question is, will people really going to believe it and then are they going to get engaged with that website now? That's a great question. The tonny thing in life, even programs can get reputations, you can get a sense that something isn't working. I think the obama care problem is two-tier. One is the real problem with the website that has been fascinating and captivating people for two months. Beyond that, there is the deeper problem of america discovering what is in the program itself, people losing coverage, the doctor situation, you can't keep them, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Plus, there's something new, orphaned policies, in which people go on to the website, think they have registered and find out in january they haven't quite so. It's so problematic that I have said since october, this thing should just be delayed one year. And david, picking up one of the points that peggy said, there's so much focus on the problems, you focus on what the dangers going forward. And there are a lot of benefits. Seniors saving on prescription drugs. Preventive care being covered for women. But there's a huge interest out there. And I think we ought to fast-forward. By march, 6 million, 7 million people registered for health care. The notion that the republican is -- only if there's a rapid increase in the enrollment? But you see the interest out there, george, people want health care. They're going to be able to get health care. So, if the website is working, and to your question, we live in a very social world now, they'll talk to their siblings and their friends. This is going to be something that person to person is going to get fixed or not. I think what you're beginning to see, the interest is spiking. The interest is out there. How about that point, congressman cole? People are flooding that website. Well, look, you never get a second chance to make a first impression and the first impression here was terrible. And I think it's going to be an unfolding disaster for the president. There are going to be some winners, there's no question about that, but there are going to be millions of losers. People are going to be finding out their rates are going up. The individual market is pretty tiny compared to what's yet to come. As that unfolds this thing is going to be an unmitigating political disaster for the president. Will democrats hold the line or will they continue to support, no more delays? I think so. The fact is, we have health care nightmares for the last years, decades, and how people were going bankrupt and how they couldn't get covered. How they were being dropped. We're getting to a point, where, yes, there are a few problems we're working through now, but we can see the end of that era and to a new time where people will be able to get sick and get care and not worry about being dropped or not worry about going bankrupt. You identified one of the problems there. You're right, there have been problems with health care as long as there has been health care systems. But I'm going to tell you this, I would rather our hands than the naysayers. This website is technology. It's going to get better. It's already better today. And if you look at the history here, you know, republicans and conservatives, they said social security was socialism, medicare was socialism, all of this kind of proclamations of doom, they're mainstream core programs. Peggy, one thing you do see is republican governors signing up, accepting the program especially on medicare. Michigan signing up, ohio. Some big states there. Lots of people will making decisions based on money and the agreement they can get with the federal government, but let me say something so old-fashioned, I always thought one of the central mistakes here was obsessing on the issue of insurance and not obsessing on the issue of health care. And making sure everybody who gets in an accident, who doesn't have money, can get treated in america. It seems to me that we had programs that could have broadened, made better. Insurance is complicated. We're seeing in this whole website thing, and everything that follows, you can't control that market, it's a big complicated, nutty, messy market. We shouldn't as a government have gone in there. Peggy noonan, I agree with you. Happy thanksgiving to you. I'm going to tell you right now, I would support medicare for all. But, you know here's the problem, and you got to deal with the system that you have, and there was so much fear, resistance, anxiety around moving to what I think would be a real problem, real solutions people ended up -- a bunch of voodoo from business guys. Single payer. As I talked to democrats in congress, they mostly say this thing hadn't worked. They're not moving to the right, they're moving further to the left. I think that's a big mistake for them. Clean it up. Allow it become less expensive. Waste, fraud abuse. Show the regard for this system. And then broaden them. This program was designed to be implemented by the states. In most of the states that are running this exchange, it's going quite well. You talked about medicaid extension. I think it's fact, it may take until 2017 when this president leaves office extending medicaid. I think it will work really well now. That's 2017. It's also a fact that, david plouffe, the public seems to have lost confidence in president obama in both his confidence and for the first time whether he's honest or trustworthy. How does the president turn that around? What are the keys to rebuilding his profile and his agenda? This has been a tough task. It's not just health care. The shutdown affected everybody's confidence in government. Let's fast forward to the state of the union and the months after that. The economy continuing to strengthen. I think the president's numbers will recover. I think people's confidence will recover. We have to push congress to do immigration, to do smart things to help the economy. The american people are sitting at home, we're talking about all of these issues, my jobs. David, I think the president has a problem. This is what it is. It's simple. He said, if you like your health insurance policy, you can keep it, period. If you like your doctor, you can keep him, period. If you like the hospital you go to, you keep it, period. That has turned out in the past two months as americans have interfaced with this program to be untrue. And the american people look at the president and they think, he's no dummy. He's a really smart guy, and because he's a smart guy, they think, well, that means he deliberately misled us to get his program through. People don't like that. That is another reputation changer. And I think that's problematic for the president going forward. I think he spoke directly to this. I think people accepted what he said. I think people trust this president. I'm confident in a few years from now, the trust numbers will come up and his approval number will come up. And more than anything else, as we begin to focus hopefully on what really matters to people. Let me bring that to congressman cole, you saw the president go out to visit some protesters on the mall this week he hasn't given up on speaker boehner. They're disappointed on in one another. On the issues particularly on immigration, any hope for that this year? Not until we get the budget done. Literally, I think the most important thing right now is that we don't have a government shutdown. Do you think it's possible again? I don't think it's likely, look, we stumbled into one before that I didn't was wise and should have occurred. The line I usually use, we can't walk and chew gum, let's chew gum for a while. And right now, chewing gum is getting a budget deal and we don't default when the debt ceiling comes out. You know, I just want to say I think that the everything the president said and did was in pursuit to get all americans health care, so, I think, even though he may have said, if you like your decent insurance, your insurance that works, then you can keep it, I think people really get that. When -- he owned it. He said, look, if you misunderstood what I was trying to say, I'm sorry about that. I think that shows integrity. He didn't anything to self-promote. He was trying to help americans all over this country for decades. I'm going to disagree with keith here. We knew back in 2009, 2010, that this was going to happen. We made the points and we know now the administration had the documents. People were going to lose health care here. It gets to credibility as well as competence. These high-deductible, high-exclusion plans, you know, they weren't quality plans in many cases. In fact, they were for a small -- there's a reason those premiums were low. We'll come back for more roundtable later.

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