'This Week' Transcript: McCain

SENOR: Right. Well, if he were serious about immigration reform, he would provide some real specifics, a real plan. He didn't do that the other day. It was just sort of platitudinal.

And -- and particularly against the backdrop of what Senator McCain said and others have said, President Obama absolutely played politics with this issue in 2007 when he was facing a Democratic primary. And John McCain and Ted Kennedy worked out a deal to keep out all these amendments that could have destroyed the entire McCain-Kennedy package, amendments from the Democrat -- extreme Democrats and extreme Republicans, and Obama effectively, you know, contributed in blowing -- contributed to blowing that up.

And so for him now to be lecturing Republicans about not playing politics for this issue -- with this issue -- they view it as a little disingenuous. The reality is -- let me -- the reality is, the best thing for Barack Obama's chances for success on immigration reform is the Republicans actually winning majority in Congress. He will lead that...


(UNKNOWN): ... never get it done.

(UNKNOWN): The Democrats will never pass a bill.

HUNT: Dan, you're very smart. You could not be more wrong. The Republican Party has been taken over by the nativists, by the anti-immigrant.

TUCKER: Absolutely.

HUNT: You cannot -- Mitt Romney did a 180 because you cannot look at John McCain today, the politics, they are nativist. And that's...


SENOR: ... majority of Democrats...


HUNT: ... Lindsey Graham -- Lindsey Graham is an ally. I'm not defending the Democrats...


TAPPER: Hold on one second. We only got a minute left. Paul, then Cynthia.


KRUGMAN: The -- the Republican Party for these past 30 years has been kind of a coalition between a cultural right, which is also basically anti-immigrant, and an economic right, which is kind of favorable to immigration reform. What's happened in the last year is that the cultural right has taken over. The economic right no longer calls the shots. And that's why we can't get immigration legislation.

TAPPER: Cynthia, quickly?

TUCKER: I was going to say the same thing, that actually this fell apart among Republicans in 2007 with -- those 11 Republican senators stepped away from the deal they had previously supported, and the politics are even worse now than they were then.


RAMOS: I mean, it's incredible that the most powerful country in the world is prosecuting 11 million people.

SENOR: We have a test case on what you're saying, right? It's very easy to say that the politics of -- cultural conservative politics have gone native.

TAPPER: Dan...


SENOR: In California, you had a gubernatorial primary, Meg Whitman...

TAPPER: This is going to continue in the green room.


TAPPER: I'm sorry. We're going to talk more about that in the green room. The roundtable will continue there on abcnews.com, or later you can also find our fact checks courtesy of PolitiFact.

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