'This Week' Transcript: Revolution in Egypt

MORAN: Well, Christiane, the latest is that the government, in the form of military police, are starting slowly but with very determined effort to clear that square. They've got some traffic running through the square now. They're trying to get the remaining protesters out.

And there is a division in that square and in the country right now on how much to trust the military government and how much staying as protesters in the streets in that square will be a guarantee of change here.

What you see in the square, we were just out there a little while ago, are really two groups. There's a hard-core group of protesters who say we aren't going to leave until we see that real change, but there are other groups chanting, "It's time to go home. It's time to go home."

It's not really that tense. There's a little pushing and shoving. But it represents the division that is growing in this country on what comes next, on what the post-Tahrir moment looks like.

AMANPOUR: Exactly. And we're going to be watching for that. So, Terry, thank you so much. And back -- Terry Moran in Cairo.

And back here in Washington, as the Obama administration was keeping a close eye on the revolution in Egypt, the American Conservative Union held its annual CPAC conference. Potential Republican presidential contenders were critical of the president's foreign policy.

One of them, Newt Gingrich, a man who led a revolution of his own in 1994, when Republicans took control of Congress, joins us now. He is a Fox News contributor and co-author, along with his wife, Callista, of a new book on Ronald Reagan called "Rendezvous with Destiny."

Thank you for being with us.

GINGRICH: Good to be with you.

AMANPOUR: First of all, you did criticize President Obama's handling of this crisis in Egypt, and you called it "timid, confused, and amazingly amateurish."

GINGRICH: Well, let me just give you one example. When you appoint a very senior diplomat to be your special ambassador, he makes a statement in Munich about what we're doing, and three hours later, the White House is directly contradicting him, that was a level of...

AMANPOUR: What would you have done?


AMANPOUR: What would you have done specifically in the big picture questions of -- you have an ally for 30 years, and then you have people power on the streets?

GINGRICH: Look, I -- I had lunch with George Shultz, who was Ronald Reagan's secretary of state, at the Reagan Library for the 100th birthday last Sunday.

Secretary Shultz said, when you have a situation like this, where you've had an ally for 30 years, you stay relatively quiet publicly and you say to him privately, "The time has come for you to leave. We are prepared to do what it takes to get you to leave. We'll find a way for you to leave with safety for you and your family. But this is over."

But he said you do it quietly, because every other potential ally in the world is watching you. And if they see you publicly abandon somebody who's been with you for 30 years, they wonder, why should I trust the United States?

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