'This Week' Transcript: Revolution in Egypt

GINGRICH: Well, and -- and -- and my answer is I first want to look at how we currently spend the aid. I don't think our bureaucracy giving money to their bureaucracy is democracy.

AMANPOUR: No, no, to NGOs that actually build democracy.

GINGRICH: I think -- I think -- I would expect -- I would certainly look at rethinking the current foreign aid program and shifting a great deal more out of government bureaucracies into NGOs and, frankly, into investments. I think a tax credit for countries that are very poor -- I've supported the Africa free trade bill for that reason.

AMANPOUR: And to get back to your future, after CPAC, when will you make your decision? Are you going run for president?

GINGRICH: Well, close to now. I'll probably make a decision by the end of this month about whether or not to set up an exploratory committee, and we're working our way through it.

AMANPOUR: So no decision right now to tell us?

GINGRICH: Not -- not this morning.



AMANPOUR: Thank you very much.

GINGRICH: Glad to be here.

AMANPOUR: Newt Gingrich, thank you for being with us.

And we will also hear about Egypt and U.S. foreign policy from another potential Republican White House contender, former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. That's later in the program.

When we return, how will military rule in Egypt give way to civilian democratic rule? And when? Egypt's ambassador to the United States, Sameh Shoukry, right after this.

AMANPOUR: Welcome back to "This Week."

And with the military now in charge of Egypt, what steps are being taken to ensure a transition to democracy? Joining me now is Egypt's ambassador to the United States, Sameh Shoukry, a friend of the program, trying to explain what is happening in Egypt.

First and foremost, who is in charge? Yes, the military, but is Vice President Suleiman still there? Is Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik?

SHOUKRY: The Supreme Military Council is chaired by the minister of defense, Field Marshal Tantawi, so he would be in charge collectively with the council. The council has decided to maintain the current government of Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik, the caretaker government, to be -- to be changed at a later stage.

AMANPOUR: So the military now and also Prime Minister Shafik's latest communique is that the prime aim is to restore security, but that seems to be a little bit at odds with what the protesters say, many wanting to stay there until their democratic aspirations are met or at least outlined.

SHOUKRY: Certainly, there's a security void, and it's necessary to restructure the police force, but also the economic conditions must be addressed, as well. So the first priority are security and the economic welfare, but that doesn't preclude that the reform process would not go ahead, as well.

AMANPOUR: Well, then tell me exactly what we expect. When will the emergency law be lifted?

SHOUKRY: In accordance with the fourth communique of the Supreme Military Council, to be lifted as soon as the current conditions of protest have been terminated.

AMANPOUR: But when, next week, next year?

SHOUKRY: They haven't defined yet a specific timetable. I believe that they will do so as conditions stabilize.

AMANPOUR: So that also uncertain, that a key demand of the U.S. and of the protesters. What about a clear roadmap to elections? Will elections happen in September, as President Mubarak had been saying?

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