'This Week' Transcript: Saif al-Islam and Saadi Gadhafi


PATRICK: You know, Jake, we were talking how the fiscal crisis has given you us the opportunity to think in new ways and to ask ourselves what is it we want government to do and not to? In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, just like everywhere else, we have had huge budget gaps we've had to deal with -- $13 billion of accumulated gaps over the last couple of years. We have closed those gaps now, but at the same time, made record-level investments in K-12 support for our public schools because that's our investment in the future. And in that respect, the president and I completely agree.

TAPPER: Let's talk for a second -- I want to turn to 2012 -- we only have a couple of minutes left. And I want to ask you about 2012.

PATRICK: I am not running, no.

TAPPER: You took over your state from Mitt Romney who is almost certainly going to run for president. Did he do a good job at governor of Massachusetts?

PATRICK: You know, I think one of the best things he did was to be the co-author of our health care reform, which has been a model for national health care reform. We have 98% of the residents insured today...

TAPPER: But you haven't gotten costs under control at all, have you?

PATRICK: It's very, very interesting. Actually it's added about 1% to our state budget, which is not what is generally reported on out there, but that is the truth. And what these folks did in Massachusetts is frankly the same thing that congress did which was take on access first, and come to cost control next. And that's what we're doing right now. We have some exciting strategies.

And just as we have shown the nation how to provide universal care through a public-private model I think we can crack the code on health care costs as well.

TAPPER: So it sounds like you think he Governor Romney did a pretty good job.

PATRICK: On that one issue, I think he deserves a lot of credit.

TAPPER: Governor Haley, I want you to look at this ad.


ANNOUNCER: Nikki Haley supporter, Governor Sarah Palin.

SARAH PALIN: A strong pro-family, pro-life, pro-second amendment, pro-development, conservative reformer, your next governor, Nikki Haley.


TAPPER: That was a pretty important endorsement for you. If she runs for president, will you return the favor?

HALEY: You know, the one thing I think that the environment is going to dictate who our next president is. I have not in any way endorsed, plan on endorsing at this point in time at all. I want all the candidates to come to South Carolina. I want the people of South Carolina to get to see them the way I know them. I want them to campaign hard. And then when right time comes, I will endorse. But there's is no one that I feel like I owe at this time.

TAPPER: All right thanks. We're going to take a quick break.

Still to come, Christiane Amanpour live from Libya

And coming up next, is both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue work to avert a government shutdown over spending cuts some Tea Party freshmen say a shutdown may be the wakeup call we need. We'll hear from one when we come back.

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