'This Week' Transcript: Tim Pawlenty and Mitch Daniels

PAWLENTY: If you walk into a place, you know, like the VFW in my hometown and you walk in there at the fish fry on a Friday night like Mary and I went to a few Friday nights ago, and there are some people in there, you know, wearing Carhartt jackets and playing pull-tabs trying to win the meat raffle, they don't look up and say, "Gosh, I really like his white paper on Sarbanes-Oxley reform. That really gets me going."

They want to know not just what you have up here, they want to know, what do you have here? And if you're going to be president of the United States or run for president of the United States, they want to know, who are you? Where did you come from? How were you raised? What do you believe? Why do you believe it? What's it based on? What were your life experience? What shaped you?

And so I'm not saying it's the difference-maker, but when you grow up as I did, in a meat-packing town, and your mom dies when you're young, and your dad for much of his life was a truck driver -- he got promoted later to dispatcher and terminal manager -- you learn some things and you see some things.

And in my hometown, when those big meat-packing plants shut down and we had all kinds of people in town unemployed, worried about their future, this is not some academic exercise. I saw the face of it, real time, at a real young age.

And so when people hear that, it just gives you a chance to have some credibility with them so they don't just think you're some pinhead, you know, who, you know, writes nice white papers or can spout off about these issues. You've actually lived it. You've walked in their shoes. And it helps.


AMANPOUR: And when we come back, the man many say who could have been a real contender, Mitch Daniels.



ROMNEY: I know a number of you work in small business.

GINGRICH: Most important social...

BACHMANN: ... created just for this purpose.

PAWLENTY: Make our mortgage payments.


AMANPOUR: "I love my country. I love my family more." With those words, Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels took himself out of the running the Republican nomination for president. Many conservatives were counting on him to lead their party back to the White House.

His strong record as a fiscal conservative, his reputation for being an innovator, and his call for a truce in the culture wars made him an attractive choice. So this week, I traveled to Indiana to find just what makes his political clock tick.


AMANPOUR (voice-over): It's been a tough week for Governor Mitch Daniels, and the first thing you notice is the bandage slapped across the middle of his forehead. At the gym, someone had slammed the door on him.

M. DANIELS: This was the day before I announced I wasn't going to run, and the popular theory is it knocked some sense into me.

AMANPOUR: I came to meet him at Indiana's state capital to talk about that decision and its implications for the Republican race to the White House.

(on-screen): So many people in the party wanted to you run, and they were disappointed. How difficult was it for you to say that you loved your family more than your country?

M. DANIELS: That was easy to say. It's a true -- it's a true statement. It was uncomfortable to feel two duties that I am very passionate about, but in the end, it wasn't really any question which came first to me.

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