'This Week' Transcript: After the Tragedy


Involuntary commitment in my state is called the Baker Act. I don't know what the involuntary commitment law is in Arizona, but it only allows for involuntary commitment for three days. You can involuntarily commit someone for three days, have them evaluated, they can be held and then they have to be released. And it is only the system that will -- that exists or lack thereof that we have to rely on in terms of when they're released, whether they're going to get the kind of follow-up treatment that they need.

AMANPOUR: When we return, the difficult question of keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Stay with us.

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AMANPOUR: one of the thorniest most difficult issues to raise, is the issue of guns. How did somebody like Jared Lee Loughner, how was he able to buy a gun? Interestingly, the people who sold Mr. Loughner the gun have told, in interviews, that they knew he was a little bit strange. But, by law, they felt that they could not refuse to sell him that Glock pistol.

So, the question is Chief Kastigar, how did that happen? How was he able to buy a gun? Should the gun owners - well, the gun shop - should the gun shop owners have called law enforcement? Should they have tried to delay, even though they were legally able and obligated to sell a gun to him?

KASTIGAR We are governed by those laws that those, in our legislature and the state, deem appropriate for the citizens of this state and this country. //I don't like the fact that very soon, we may allow teachers and students to carry guns in schools. And that's concerning, to me, because, I think, people who aren't mature enough to own a weapon, and deal with it, are the ones that are, likely, to cause the greatest problem in this society. We saw that happen just a week ago by some guy who got a gun within the confines of the law.

AMANPOUR: Well, let's me all of you. Everybody knows that there's a second amendment in this country. There is the right to bear arms. And, of course, Arizona is a state which is very fond of their guns and how many of you, here, actually, own guns? By a show of hands? Not even half. Maybe a quarter of this room.

Let me go to David Muir because this issue is, obviously, one that is very controversial. And what we're trying to figure out is not whether guns should be allowed, but whether, in certain instances, there are real grounds for controlling them.

MUIR: And we could point out that the Congressman, herself, Congressman Giffords, was a proud gun owner and talked openly about it while campaigning and as the Congresswoman here in this district.

And I wanted to bring in Geri Hills, you're gun control advocate. And I know it's dear to your heart. You lost someone, yourself, in a very similar situation.

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