'This Week' Transcript: Don't Ask, Don't Tell


AMANPOUR: Well, George, the ABC special series -- the poll is going to be released tomorrow publicly, but in general the metrics show a decline in the very areas that Mr. Brzezinski is talking about. What is this going to mean for President Obama, particularly since the deadline has been pushed? I mean, 2011 is now very, very soft and we're talking about the end of 2014.

WILL: Well, in response to your question, the ambassador gave a wonderfully diplomatic answer, "certain improvement in certain areas." That's pretty minimalist definition.

Now, the country has turned against this war. There's no precedent in our history for the country turning against a war and then turning back in support of it. The president's base, which is unhappy about almost everything he's doing, is particularly unhappy about what's gone on in Afghanistan.

Now, two years ago, I sat in the secretary of defense's office and asked him, what is our objective in Afghanistan? He said a strong central government. I said, when has it had that? He said, with admirable candor, never.

And fast forward two years to the WikiLeaks. They come out, and in it, it says -- you have Ambassador Eikenberry in Afghanistan saying our problem is we're trying to connect the Afghan people with a central government that is hopelessly corrupt.

AMANPOUR: So what does that mean on the ground, Sakena, a government that is perceived as corrupt, not just by the United States, but also by its own people? What -- what does that mean in terms of women and children's rights and the areas that you're involved in?

YACOOBI: Well, to tell you exactly my recommendation, what I see on the ground, that I see that people of Afghanistan, really, they are really lost their faith.

AMANPOUR: Lost their faith?

YACOOBI: They lost their faith. And the reason is that because there is no service available for the local people, for the local community. How is this working in Afghanistan? As -- as -- as far as I go for the improvement that concern Afghan women, children, they are working very hard, and they are really all doing for themselves. There is not a central government that's supporting them. There is not a service for the people of Afghanistan from the central government. So community by themselves, they are doing a lot. And...

AMANPOUR: Do they think, the communities, that they are better off with the United States forces still there and still trying to fight the Taliban back?

YACOOBI: Well, this is something that I really would like to talk to you about it, because on behalf of the Afghan women that I'm talking here, I really believe that, as an Afghan in the region, I think that the NATO allies should be in Afghanistan.

AMANPOUR: The NATO allies should be there?

YACOOBI: They should be there, because -- because of the women and children of Afghanistan. Otherwise, the life of the women and children will be completely demolished in Afghanistan. This is my main concern.

Security is not there available for the people of Afghanistan. As the people of Afghanistan in local communities, they are doing a lot for themselves. What we can do about that, how we can change that, this is another issue.

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