But anyway, the point is that the fun of the relationship, the humor had a lot to do with it and underneath that were other things that I said, you know, the commitments we shared, politically, socially. Both had a very strong feeling about putting something back if you were fortunate enough or successful enough that you should put something back if you could, and he certainly did that in spades.
So we had that commonality and his family I knew very well. My kids were his children's age. And so when you finally cut it down, am I sad? Of course I am. He was a real friend and that humor that we had, I'll miss that. I'll miss him.
QUESTION: You said something about you really valued your privacy. He was one of the first actors that managed to carve or make a real line in the sand between the private and the personal. And how do you think he did that?
REDFORD: I think Paul was able to maintain that because of the personal value system that said I'm not going to the way of all flesh. It would certainly be tempting for him, as it has been for me, but for Paul, a lot longer.
And I think he made a decision somewhere along the line, I think, "I'm going to have a life and my life, if I'm going to have one, it has to be private. And I'm committed to family. In order to do that, I've got to come up with a scheme to avoid the usual stuff that sucks people into the exalt of our business." And I agree with that.
QUESTION: What was the scheme?
REDFORD: How you move around publicly and how you maintain yourself privately. Not easy when people are outside your door and looking for ways to get in and all that kind of stuff.
You just had to get very -- you get paranoid. You take on paranoia as a strategy. It's not fun. That's not a great way to live, but you have to do it to protect yourself. And I think his being able to balance between when he decided to go public for something and being private, he just did very well.
But I think it took time. I mean, I can't speak for him. I just saw the result of it and I thought he did damn well.
QUESTION: And legacy-wide, professionally and, also, personally, what do you think the legacies are in terms of the human being and as an actor and as a friend?
REDFORD: Well, as a friend, the friend, of course, is more personal. But as an actor, I think he would share with a lot of other actors the fact that he was really committed to his profession, I mean, through and through. That's something that -- there's a legacy in that simply because of all the films he made. They'll be there and they'll be there for posterity.
QUESTION: Was there a sea change in acting? Did he do something that changed in some way in terms of what you might have learned as an actor? [...] You said he really lobbied to get you on that film. Was there something about working with each other that ...
REDFORD: Well, I think Paul was, at that point, anyway, he was a little skeptical of just being with so-called personalities for stars, because of where he came from, and he respected acting and the commitment to acting and I think that's the way he saw that. I can't -- I can't answer that question fully, because I don't know what was on his mind. I just know he stood up for me. The studio didn't want me. I didn't have to be in it. I wasn't as well known as he was.