Republican debate highlights and analysis: Candidates squabble in Simi Valley

2024 hopefuls argued over education, spending and border security.

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Last Updated: September 27, 2023, 9:59 PM EDT

The second Republican debate of the 2024 presidential primary, taking place at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, has just come to an end.

The affair was more raucous than the first debate, which took place over a month ago. Candidates interrupted one another much more regularly and several — most notably former Vice President Mike Pence and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie — have directly criticized front-runner Donald Trump, who elected not to show up tonight. The two candidates from South Carolina, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott, went after one another for their records on spending, and seemingly everyone who had the chance to take a shot at entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy did so.

Read below for highlights, excerpts and key moments.

Sep 27, 2023, 9:59 PM EDT

Ramaswamy and Scott's debate over birthright citizenship devolves into chaotic exchange

Before the first break, we saw a debate about a sensitive issue on the trail devolve into a heated back-and-forth where Ramaswamy and Scott -- who usually maintains a cheery disposition on the trail and stage – were at each other’s throats.

In calling for ending birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants in the United States, Ramaswamy invoked the 14th Amendment – which bestows the rights of citizenship on all who were born in the country, including freed slaves.

“Now the left will howl about the Constitution and the 14th Amendment. The difference between me and them is I've actually read the 14th Amendment. What it says is that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the laws and jurisdiction thereof are citizens,” Ramaswamy said.

Former biotech executive Vivek Ramaswamy speaks during the second Republican candidates' debate of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., Sept. 27, 2023.
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Scott countered Ramaswamy's argument, noting that the clause had to do with slavery, not illegal immigration.

“I think it's simple that clearly it was designed for slavery and not for illegal immigration,” said Scott. Scott then pivoted to saying that Ramaswamy, who said during the last debate that the other candidates were ‘bought and paid for,’ was “just in business with the Chinese communist party. The exchange devolved into a heated back-and-forth, with Ramaswamy at one point interjecting, “thank you for speaking while I’m speaking.”

-ABC News' Isabella Murray and Oren Oppenheim

Sep 27, 2023, 9:58 PM EDT

Pence pits Trump against federalism

When asked whether the Obama administration’s Affordable Care Act was “here to stay,” Pence started off by calling for a federal expedited death penalty for mass shooters. When pressed again by the moderator, he turned the question of the ACA into one about Trump, suggesting that questions about health care policy should be a decision by Congress and the executive branch, while Trump wants to “consolidate power in the executive branch.” Pence said he’d like to “revive federalism in America.”
— Analysis by Leah Askarinam of 538

Sep 27, 2023, 9:54 PM EDT

In our pre-debate 538/Washington Post/Ipsos poll, 9 percent of likely Republican primary voters were looking at “improving health care” as one of up to three most important issues (among a list of 20) in deciding which candidate to vote for in the primaries.

—Analysis by Holly Fuong of 538

Sep 27, 2023, 9:52 PM EDT

DeSantis gets in a signature issue

Using military force in Mexico has become one of DeSantis's signature planks. In the past few months he's talked about sending special forces to confront the cartels, and didn't rule out firing missiles into Mexico either. It's a heavy-handed proposal that just a few years ago probably would have been major news but these days is pretty par for the course for more and more GOP officeholders.
-Jacob Rubashkin, 538 contributor

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