'Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris': Max Lucado urges evangelical leaders to be more compassionate

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June 13, 2019, 11:12 AM
PHOTO: Max Lucado accepts the Book Impact of the Year at the 2nd Annual KLOVE Fan Awards at the Grand Ole Opry House in this June 1, 2014 file photo in Nashville, Tenn.
Max Lucado accepts the Book Impact of the Year at the 2nd Annual KLOVE Fan Awards at the Grand Ole Opry House in this June 1, 2014 file photo in Nashville, Tenn.
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In a new episode of "Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris," a podcast featuring conversations about how faith has guided newsmakers and celebrities through their best and worst times, ABC News' Paula Faris sits down with pastor and author Max Lucado.

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Here is Paula, in her own words, about the episode.

Max Lucado has gone where few religious leaders are willing to go: into the swirling, dangerous waters where faith and politics collide.

On this week’s edition of “Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris," the pastor and prolific author -- his books have sold more than 100 million copies -- delivers a strong message to evangelicals, a community that he says “could do better about sharing convictions compassionately."

He has an even stronger message for those leaders in his inner circle: “I’m not real proud of our track record lately, because I think we tend to come across as smug and self-righteous.”

For Lucado, his past keeps him humble. He was a “mess," a “disaster waiting to happen," a "converted drunk." Had he not found his faith, he says he’d have crashed and burned.

Hear Lucado’s challenge to the evangelical community, and why he believes in the “absurdity” of his faith.

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