Jan. 6 hearing witness: Irate Trump grabbed wheel, demanded to go to Capitol

Cassidy Hutchinson said Trump was warned about potential violence, crimes.

Last Updated: July 21, 2022, 7:57 PM EDT

The House select committee investigating the U.S. Capitol attack heard stunning testimony on Tuesday from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.

She told the committee and an international TV audience that then-President Donald Trump was warned about potential violence and crimes, that he wanted supporters with weapons let into his Jan. 6 rally, and that she was told he then demanded his security detail take him to the Capitol, going so far as to grab the wheel of the presidential SUV.

This was the sixth hearing this month investigating what the committee says was the conspiracy by Trump and his allies to overturn the election.

Jun 28, 2022, 1:36 PM EDT

Witness: White House was warned 'Congress itself is the target on the 6th'

The bombshell information the committee is unfolding through Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony is that the Trump administration and Trump himself knew about the potential for violence before Jan. 6.

"I recall hearing the word 'Oath Keeper' and hearing the word 'Proud Boys' closer to the planning of the January 6 rally when Mr. Giuliani would be around," Hutchinson said in a taped deposition played by Vice Chair Rep. Liz Cheney.

Chair Rep. Bennie Thompson swears in Cassidy Hutchinson, a top former aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, during the sixth hearing held by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the Capitol, June 28, 2022.
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Cheney then displayed a Capitol Police bulletin on Jan. 3 warning, "targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th."

Hutchinson also recalled receiving a call from then-national security adviser Robert O'Brien, after the Capitol Police bulletin, asking if he could speak with Meadows about the potential violence. She wasn't sure if that call ever happened.

Jun 28, 2022, 1:29 PM EDT

Witness: Meadows told Hutchinson 'things might get real, real bad' on Jan. 6

Hutchinson described Tuesday conversations she had with Rudy Giuliani and then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Jan. 2, 2021 -- four days before the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Hutchinson said Giuliani said to her something "to the effect of 'We're going to the Capitol. It's going to be great. The president's going to be there. He's going to look powerful.'"

When Hutchinson went to Meadows' office to relay her discussion with Giuliani, Meadows told her: "There is a lot going on, Cass, I don't know, things might get real, real bad on Jan. 6."

"That evening was the first moment that I remember feeling scared and nervous for what could happen on Jan. 6," Hutchinson testified. "I had a deeper concern with what was happening with the planning aspects."

Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, is sworn in during a House Select Committee hearing to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the Capitol, June 28, 2022.
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Jun 28, 2022, 1:20 PM EDT

Committee establishes Hutchinson's proximity to Trump

Introducing Hutchinson to the American people, Chairman Bennie Thompson asked Hutchinson to recall a typical day at the White House.

"When I moved over to the White House chief of staff's office with Mr. Meadows, when he became the fourth chief of staff, it's difficult to describe a typical day," she said.

PHOTO: Cassidy Hutchinson, who was an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows during the administration of former President Donald Trump, arrives to testify, June 28, 2022.
Cassidy Hutchinson, who was an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows during the administration of former President Donald Trump, arrives to testify during a public hearing of the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6 Attack on the Capitol, on Capitol Hill, June 28, 2022.
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Thompson established through a series of questions how Hutchinson's office was a five to 10-second walk from the Oval Office and that she regularly engaged with members of Congress and senior members of the Trump administration.

Jun 28, 2022, 1:17 PM EDT

Cheney: Hutchinson will relay firsthand observations of Trump’s conduct

Vice chair Liz Cheney said Cassidy Hutchinson was in a "position to know a great deal about the happenings in the Trump White House."

"Today, you will hear Ms. Hutchinson relate certain first-hand observations about President Trump's conduct on Jan. 6," Cheney said in her opening statement. "You will also hear new information regarding the actions and statements of Mr. Trump's senior advisers that day, including his chief of staff Mark Meadows, and his White House counsel."

Cheney said information will also be released on what Trump and members of the White House knew about the potential for violence on Jan. 6.

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