Georgia election hearing updates: Court adjourns with no decision yet in Meadows case

Mark Meadows took the stand on Monday.

Last Updated: August 28, 2023, 3:29 PM EDT

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, charged along with 18 others in Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' sweeping racketeering indictment for alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia, took the stand on Monday to try to have his trial moved from state to federal court.

Among other charges, the indictment cites Meadows' role in the infamous Jan. 2, 2021, phone call then-President Donald Trump made to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger -- actions that Meadows argues he took as a federal official acting "under color" of his office.

Aug 28, 2023, 3:18 PM EDT

Defense rests, Meadows steps down

Mark Meadows' defense has rested. Meadows stepped down from the stand after nearly three hours and 40 minutes.

Before stepping down, he reiterated that there is a federal role in ensuring the accuracy of elections and protecting elections from cyberthreats.

Before Meadows stepped down, prosecutors questioned him about his role in the fake electors scheme. Meadows said, "As chief of staff, no I did not coordinate those efforts."

The prosecution asked Meadows if he had a personal interest in Trump staying in office. He responded, "Wanting him to stay in office? Certainly."

The prosecution then asked if keeping his job depended on it. Meadows said yes, joking, "I can’t imagine that I would be chief of staff for Joe Biden … I was not on the shortlist."

Meadows testified that Trump’s focus on various allegations of election fraud played a role in Meadows being so involved in efforts to overturn the election. Meadows claimed, "They were consuming the president’s time."

-ABC News' Mike Levine and Will Steakin

Aug 28, 2023, 3:06 PM EDT

Meadows addresses Hatch Act

Mark Meadows testified that the Hatch Act does apply to the White House chief of staff, but he said “there are some differences of opinion on how it should apply.”

Meadows insisted that when it comes to his interactions with people connected to Donald Trump's campaign, including Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, he said, "I didn't [see ] that as a violation of the Hatch Act."

The Hatch Act limits the political participation and speech of federal employees.

-ABC News' Mike Levine

Aug 28, 2023, 3:00 PM EDT

Meadows dodges questions on if he believed Trump won election

Mark Meadows repeatedly dodged the prosecution's questions on whether he believed Donald Trump's claims about the results of the 2020 presidential election.

"He believed he won," Meadows said, to which the prosecution pressed, "Did you believe that?"

Former President Donald Trump is shown in a booking photo released by the Fulton County Sheriff's Office.
Fulton County Sheriff's Office

"I believed there were additional things that needed to be investigated," Meadows replied, without saying whether he personally believed Trump won the 2020 election.

The prosecution repeatedly pressed Meadows, asking at one point if he meant that he did not have enough information to come to his own conclusion.

Meadows again deflected, saying there were a number of allegations, but he believed the signature verification issue in Fulton County, Georgia, had more credibility than the other allegations.

-ABC News' Soorin Kim

Aug 28, 2023, 2:54 PM EDT

Prosecution asks Meadows about Raffensperger call

When Mark Meadows' hearing resumed Monday afternoon, prosecutors honed in on the time frame between when Donald Trump asked Meadows to set up the Jan. 2, 2021, phone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and when the call took place.

Prosecutors also tried to undercut the claim that the Raffensberger call was federal business. Under questioning, Meadows noted that no one from the White House counsel’s office or the Department of Homeland Security was on the call.

When the prosecution asked Meadows why he believed by Jan. 2, 2021, that questions about the election in Georgia were still "outstanding," as Meadows had testified, the former chief of staff said because Trump "kept asking me about it."

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