'This Week' Transcript:Two Powerhouse Roundtables

But here's the thing, the Republican Party is out to lunch. It's not just mechanics. It's not just communication. I mean, it's the party that continues to reject the majority of the American people and they feel it They don't want to be associated with a party that talks down to them, that's condescending, that attacks their rights and then call them victims.

So, I think they're out to lunch. And as far as I'm concerned, I will give them a bus ticket pass to continue to stay off the national radar.

MESSINA: When I was covering the White House and Karl was in it with George W. Bush, it was a Republican Party that was looking to that tomorrow and reaching out, winning 40 plus percent of the Hispanic vote. I remember there was an event in the East Room where President George W. Bush, said on Thomas Jefferson's birthday, I'm happy and proud to welcome both sides of the Jefferson family, the descendants of Sally Hemings.

A Republican couldn't get away with that today. It's...

ROVE: No.

NOONAN: I disagree. But it was a gracious moment.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: We are starting to see a change this week, actually something happened this week that does signal some opening to the 71 percent who voted for President Obama -- Latinos. You saw Rand Paul, interestingly really break the dam on immigration. A lot of people saw the speech that he gave and said this could be the signal that immigration reform passes this year.

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SEN. RAND PAUL, (R) KENTUCKY: We aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants. If you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place to you. In order to bring conservatives to this cause, however, those who work for reform must understand that a real solution must ensure that our boarders are secure.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: Now Karl Rove, it is true, that is not the kind of language you heard during the Republican primary debate, certainly not Mitt Romney, but a big shift.

ROVE: Let's be clear. Before we assign the Republican Party to the dust pin of history, 30 out of 50 governors of the United States are Republicans. Republicans have -- elected in 2010 the largest number of state legislators since 1920, a majority of state legislators are Republicans.

The U.S. House is Republican. The Senate would have been Republican had it -- were it not for bad candidates. I suspect we have a lot of agreement that were it not for the Sharron Angles and Todd Aiken and Richard Mourdocks of the world there might even actually be a Republican Senate majority. And this president got reelected with a smaller percentage of the vote than he got elected four years ago. And nobody believes that he got reelected because of compelling, positive, forward-looking agenda for America. He irradiated Mitt Romney and made him a plutocrat with a wife who is an open practicing equestrian, as my friend Haley Barbour says.

So let's not kid ourselves. We have two robust parties, each have got their own problems. The Republican Party has got its problems, the Democratic Party has got its problems. And we're likely to see a competitive political environment for decades to come.

Now as to Rand Paul, good comment. Republicans need to help resolve the issue of immigration reform in order to get this issue behind us.

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