'This Week' Transcript: Former Obama National Security Adviser Tom Donilon

JARVIS: And that is the question, because At the current rate, the rate that we know that this website is running at, if they want to get 7 million people signed up, it will fall short of that number. We're looking at about 1 million at the current rate signed up in the amount of time that they were expecting. And that could mean for future issues as far as the mandate is concerned for people and the cost of their insurance, the pools -- if the pools are primarily dominated by older, sicker members, than ultimately those premiums will go up in 2015.

STEPHANOPOULOS: OK, Rebecca Jarvis, thanks very much.

Let's bring in two key members of congress, Republican Tom Cole of Oklahoma, Democrat Keith Ellison of Minnesota. They're here along with Peggy Noonan from the Wall Street Journal, David Plouffe former top adviser to President Obama and now an analyst with ABC News and Bloomberg.

Welcome to you all.

And Peggy, let me begin with you, we heard those numbers from the White House right now. The question is, are people really going to believe it and are they then going to get engage with that website now?

NOONAN: Yeah, that's a great question. A funny thing in life is that even programs can get reputations. You can get a sense that something isn't working. I think the Obamacare problem is two-tier. One is the real problem with the website that has been fascinating and captivating people for two months. Beyond that, there is the deeper problem of America discovering of what is in the program itself, people losing coverage, the doctor situation -- you can't keep them, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Plus, there's something new, orphaned policies, in which people go on to the site, think they have registered and find out in January that they haven't.

So it's so problematic that I have said since October, this thing should just be delayed one year.

STEPHANOPOULOS: And David, picking up one of the points that Peggy said, there's so much focus on the problems, you have this political danger that people pocket (inaudible) and then just focus on what are the dangers going forward.

PLOUFFE: And there are a lot of benefits -- seniors saving on prescription drugs, preventive care being covered for women, in particular, people getting rebates from insurance companies. But there is a huge interest out there. And I think we ought to fast-forward a few months here. This has been a rough period, obviously.

By march, most people think you can 6 million, 7 million, 8 million people registered for health care. The notion that somehow the Republican message--

STEPHANOPOULOS: Only if there's a rapid increase in the enrollments.

PLOUFFE: But you see the interest out there, George, people want health care. They're going to be able to get health care.

So, if the website is working -- and to your question, we live in a very social world now, people will tell their siblings or they'll talk their brothers, or sisters or their friends, say I went on, it was pretty easy, I got health care. I'm happy with the plan.

So, this is going to be something that person to person is going to get fixed or not. And I think what you're beginning to see is the interest is spiking, because the interest is out there. People just need an easy experience and it hasn't been easy.

STEPHANOPOULOS: How about that point, Congressman Cole? I think David is right, people are flooding that website.

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