MARTHA RADDATZ: What's the, what's the difference between obfuscation, spinning, exaggerating, and lying? I think we all go round and round and we don't want to call a lie and lie. And you said yourself in the book that the President sometimes would say things that weren't quite true. And that he wouldn't think they were a lie?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Using words like lie, deliberate, misleading, and things like that, it's emotionally charged and it misses from the larger point. Now it's problematic in it's own right if it's not deliberate or intentional. But when you get into words like that they too often poison the atmosphere in Washington, and I think you have to look at it from a, take a step back from it and look at it from a more reasoned approach.
MARTHA RADDATZ: -- And saying he's "exaggerated," and "veered off course" is more reasoned and doesn't poison the atmosphere.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Well I think that you have to be open and honest in order to learn from your mistakes and be able to correct them in the future to understand what would happen to take things off course. And if we don't address these issues openly and honestly then we don't learn. And that's what I've been trying to focus on in this book.
MARTHA RADDATZ: But you said it was an honor and a privilege to work for the President when you left the White House. I remember seeing you walk away. And this is a dramatic change. I've sat on that front row day after day in your last few months, your last year. I heard you talk about the war. I heard you defend the President through countless, countless crises. What happened? What changed?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: I'm done with my job. It was my job to be the advocate and spokesman for the President of the United States.
MARTHA RADDATZ: But you were saying at the time --
SCOTT McCLELLAN: I was sincere about what I was saying at the time but like everyone, I got caught up in this whole Washington atmosphere too.
MARTHA RADDATZ: But did you not think about it, when you came out from the briefing room, did you think 'I'm telling the truth?' Or, 'this is my job?' How did you approach it?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Well part of the function of the spokesman is as a refection of the person he serves and the institution he serves to a large extent.
MARTHA RADDATZ: Don't you serve the public?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Yes, absolutely. You serve the public but you also serve the president of the United States. And you can meet both obligations. You don't have to meet either or obligation and I fell short in terms of myself, fulfilling my duties as a public servant in many ways at different times throughout the administration but at the time, I was so caught up -- you're so caught up in the White House bubble.
It's hard for people to understand. I think you and I can understand it because we lived it and you continue to live it and it's day in and day out. And when you get inside that bubble, you have great affection for the person you're serving, you have all these high hopes that you're coming to Washington and he's sincere about bringing this bipartisan spirit and that we're going to change things. And then over time you realize that what you pledged to change, you became.