Republican debate highlights and analysis: Candidates squabble in Simi Valley

2024 hopefuls argued over education, spending and border security.

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Last Updated: September 27, 2023, 6:58 PM EDT

The second Republican debate of the 2024 presidential primary, taking place at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, has just come to an end.

The affair was more raucous than the first debate, which took place over a month ago. Candidates interrupted one another much more regularly and several — most notably former Vice President Mike Pence and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie — have directly criticized front-runner Donald Trump, who elected not to show up tonight. The two candidates from South Carolina, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott, went after one another for their records on spending, and seemingly everyone who had the chance to take a shot at entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy did so.

Read below for highlights, excerpts and key moments.

Sep 27, 2023, 10:15 PM EDT

How things are going

Christie made an awkward joke about Biden sleeping with teacher’s unions (because he’s married to a teacher), and Pence decided it would be a good idea to remind everyone that he also is sleeping with a teacher (his wife). So, that just happened.
— Analysis by Leah Askarinam of 538

Sep 27, 2023, 10:15 PM EDT

Pence has suggested a federal ban on gender transition-related healthcare for children. In a poll conducted by Marist College for NPR and PBS NewsHour in June, 52 percent of Republicans said only adults who are 18 and older should be able to receive gender transition-related healthcare. Nine percent said adults and children with the consent of their parents should be able to receive such care, and 37 percent said nobody, regardless of age, should be able to receive gender transition-related healthcare.
—Analysis by 538

Sep 27, 2023, 10:12 PM EDT

Fact-checking DeSantis’s claim that Florida proposal to teach that enslaved people benefited from slavery was a ‘hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris’

DeSantis is dodging the facts.

The Florida Board of Education set new social studies standards for middle schoolers July 19.

In a section about the duties and trades performed by enslaved people, the state adopted a clarification that said "instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit."

Experts on Black history said that such language is factually misleading and offensive.

Marvin Dunn, a psychology professor emeritus at Florida International University, has authored several books on the history of African Americans.

"Most enslaved people had no special skills at all that benefited them following their enslavement," Dunn said. "For almost all their skill was picking cotton. An enslaved man who was made to be a blacksmith might have been a king had he not been captured and taken from his country. Is he supposed to be grateful? Enslavement prevented people from becoming who and what they might have been and that was slavery's greatest injury to humankind."

Bruce Levine, an emeritus professor of history at the University of Illinois and author of "Half Slave & Half Free: The Roots of Civil War," was one of several scholars of the period who told PolitiFact that they rejected the value of spotlighting "skills" learned while enslaved.

"Very simply, can you imagine saying this about ‘skills’ developed in Nazi forced-labor camps?"
-Analysis by Aaron Sharockman, PolitiFact

Sep 27, 2023, 10:14 PM EDT

GOP candidates claim border security is a 'day one' issue, bolster the ‘remain in Mexico’ policy

Several of the Republicans on stage touted their prioritization of border security should they win the presidency.

“What I’ll do on day one is sign an executive order to send the National Guard to partner with Customs and Border Patrol to make sure that we stop the flow of fentanyl over the border,” Christie said first. He expanded his answer to include his plans to fill the “6 million vacant jobs” in the country with legal immigrants.

“This border is going to be a day one issue for me as president,” DeSantis said, also noting that he’d administer the remain in Mexico policy, which requires migrants seeking asylum to remain in Mexico until their US immigration court date.

“We're going to declare a national emergency. Yes, we'll build the wall. We’ll do remain in Mexico,” DeSantis said.

Pence spoke about his role in negotiating the remain in Mexico policy of the Trump administration.

“I negotiated the remain in Mexico policy with the Mexican government. We used economic power to bring the Mexican government to the table. We build hundreds of miles of border wall and despite what's said here today, we reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90%. And as President of the United States, I can do it again,” he said. “I'm going to be ready on day one to get Congress to step up, secure the southern border of the United States.”

Haley cosigned on the Remain in Mexico Policy.

“Let's go back to Remain in Mexico policy,” she said. “Instead of catch and release. Let's go to catch and deport.”
Ramaswamy said that he was supportive of most of his opponents’ border positions, but that he’d go a step further: he’d end birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal immigrants.

“The Republicans on the stage are on the right side of this issue, militarize the southern border, stop funding sanctuary cities and end foreign aid to Mexico and Central America to end the incentives to come across,” Ramaswamy said.

--ABC News' Isabella Murray

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