Republican debate highlights and analysis: Candidates squabble in Simi Valley

2024 hopefuls argued over education, spending and border security.

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Last Updated: September 27, 2023, 6:58 PM EDT

The second Republican debate of the 2024 presidential primary, taking place at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, has just come to an end.

The affair was more raucous than the first debate, which took place over a month ago. Candidates interrupted one another much more regularly and several — most notably former Vice President Mike Pence and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie — have directly criticized front-runner Donald Trump, who elected not to show up tonight. The two candidates from South Carolina, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott, went after one another for their records on spending, and seemingly everyone who had the chance to take a shot at entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy did so.

Read below for highlights, excerpts and key moments.

Sep 27, 2023, 10:59 PM EDT

DeSantis is somewhat misleading while claiming biggest victory in Florida history

DeSantis claimed that his 1.5 million-vote victory was the largest in a Florida gubernatorial election in state history. Now, his nearly-20 percentage point margin of victory was quite large in what has historically been a swing state. But it's quite misleading to use the raw vote margin since population has changed quite a bit over time! This is especially true in a state like Florida, which has grown by leaps and bounds. For instance, a candidate would've had a tougher time winning by 1.5 million votes in 1990, when the state had a population of about 13 million, than in 2022, when the state had a population of about 22 million.

Analysis by Geoffrey Skelley of 538

Sep 27, 2023, 10:54 PM EDT

Scott goes after Haley again

After mixing it up with her earlier, Scott goes out of his way to attack Haley again. He very much wants to be in her position — rising in the national polls, in second place in New Hampshire in some polls — right now.

—Analysis by Nathaniel Rakich of 538

Sep 27, 2023, 10:54 PM EDT

Fact-checking Pence’s claim about passing the largest tax cuts in American history

Pence and Trump keep trying to claim they passed the largest tax cuts in American history as if one time it might be true.

It is not.

In inflation-adjusted dollars, the 2017 tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
-Analysis by Aaron Sharockman, PolitiFact

Sep 27, 2023, 10:51 PM EDT

China is a key foreign policy topic – and Ramaswamy, Trump take flak

Foreign policy isn’t quite dominating this debate, but U.S. policy towards China is a prominent theme, and Ramaswamy is bearing down a lot of attacks on that.

Ramaswamy and Haley had a heated moment on the debate stage over the issue of support for Ukraine – which Haley tied to China. When Ramaswamy argued against support for Ukraine, Haley jumped in, saying that a win for Russia is a win for China, and then accused Ramaswamy of liking China.

There was also the memorable TikTok exchange between the two. Haley sniped at Ramaswamy that "every time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber for what you say” and that he can't be trusted as he justified his choice to join TikTok after being convinced by influencer and boxer Jake Paul to join despite previously calling it "digital fentanyl." TikTok was created by Chinese company ByteDance and lawmakers have scrutinized the app over security concerns. (Ads for TikTok are also airing on Fox Business Network during commercial breaks.)

Scott also accused Ramaswamy of being ‘bought’ by China. He was likely referencing Ramaswamy's company, Roivant Sciences, announcing 5-years ago that it was partnering with China state-owned investment company CITIC Group Corp

And Pence had a similar, pointed attack: “I'm glad Vivek pulled out of his business deal in 2018 in China -- that must have been about the time you decided to start voting in presidential elections."

It’s worth noting that Haley criticized Trump too on this front, in that case for not pursuing China aggressively enough on a host of issues: “This is where President Trump went wrong.”

– ABC News’ Kendall Ross, Libby Cathey, Soorin Kim, Abby Cruz, Nicholas Kerr, and Oren Oppenheim

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