While seeing these two high-powered titans in such a calming state may seem unusual, "Billions" co-creator Brian Koppelman, 49, believes it works perfectly.
“Story-wise and character-wise, it makes sense,” he told ABC News’ Dan Harris on his livestream podcast show, “10% Happier with Dan Harris.” “Because if you do even a little research into the world of high-performance, New York, Greenwich, Westport people, you find that they’re chasing if not inner peace, they’re chasing a kind of actualization as a kind of performance enhancement, and one of the key things they seem to look to is meditation. It fits the world, and it’s true to the world.”
And, in real life, it fits into Koppelman’s world.
“In our culture, I think if we feel like if something’s not hard, it’s not worth doing maybe, or how can I make gain if it’s not challenging," Koppelman said. "Transcendental Meditation is great because it’s simple to do. You just have to carve the time, and you get results. So I think that’s why it catches on."
Koppelman said he started practicing Transcendental Meditation about five years ago and practices it for 20 minutes twice a day.
“It doesn’t mean that I still don’t have concerns, that I don’t still worry, as we all do,” Koppelman explained. “But the physical manifestations, the actual way I walk through the world and feel, changed a dramatic amount when I started meditating after probably three weeks of meditating.”
During their discussion, Harris -- who practices Mindful Meditation, which is a different form of meditation from Transcendental Meditation -- and Koppelman discussed the differences between the two, as well as their thoughts on organized religion, meditators who have influenced them and whether achieving enlightenment is possible.
“For some people it’s listening to a great song, or reading a book that transports them and maybe that little moment that lingers after you finish a great piece of art," Koppelman said. "There’s a moment where you’re just right there, and maybe that’s the closest to enlightened that we get to be."