Pence, Harris face off in VP debate with diverging views of America

Highlights from the first and only matchup between Biden, Trump's running mates

Last Updated: October 15, 2020, 9:27 AM EDT

With plexiglass and more than 12 feet of distance separating them, Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic nominee Sen. Kamala Harris of California debated in Salt Lake City in the first and only one-on-one matchup between the vice presidential candidates.

The showdown came as President Donald Trump and several in his orbit have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, raising questions on a transfer of power to the vice president were Trump at 74 -- or Democratic nominee Joe Biden at 77 -- to become too ill to serve.

The debate's format was divided into nine 10-minute sections with each candidate having two minutes to respond to the opening question in each segment and the remaining time allowed for follow ups. Moderator Susan Page, Washington Bureau chief of USA Today, did not release the topics in advance.

The sole vice presidential debate follows Trump and Biden's chaotic debate last week in Cleveland.

Oct 07, 2020, 10:46 PM EDT

Harris, Pence respond to question from student about civility in politics

At the end of the debate, Harris and Pence took a final question from a high school student who asked about civility in politics.

Pence touted "free and open debate" as the basis for American life. Pence referenced the relationship between late-Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia for their close relationship despite ideological differences. 

PHOTO: Vice President Mike Pence, Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris and moderator Susan Page all speak at the same time during the vice presidential debate, Oct. 7, 2020, at University of Utah in Salt Lake City.
Vice President Mike Pence, Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris and moderator Susan Page all speak at the same time during the vice presidential debate, Oct. 7, 2020, at Kingsbury Hall on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.
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"I just want to encourage you, I want to tell you that we're going to work every day to have government as good as our people," Pence said. "The American people, each and every day, love a good debate and a good argument. But we always come together, and we're always there for one another in times of need. And we've especially learned that through the difficulties of this year."

Harris responded by talking about Biden's efforts to be bipartisan and work across the aisle.

"So when you think about the future, I do believe the future is bright. And it will be because of your leadership, and it will be because we fight for each person's voice through their vote. And we get engaged in this election," Harris said. "You have the ability through your work, and eventually your vote, to determine the future of our country and what its leadership looks like."

Oct 07, 2020, 10:43 PM EDT

Candidates asked how they’d react if transfer of power isn’t peaceful 

Page asked both candidates how they would react if Trump refuses to accept a peaceful transfer of power if Biden were to win the election.

Both candidates dodged the question and used the opportunity to begin pitching their closing message to voters. 

Democratic vice presidential nominee Senator Kamala Harris and Vice President Mike Pence take notes during the 2020 vice presidential debate in Salt Lake City, Oct. 7, 2020.
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"Joe and I are particularly proud of the coalition that we have built around our campaign. We probably have one of the broadest coalitions of folks that you've ever seen in a presidential race," Harris said. 

"It is within our power, and if we use our society, and we use our voice, we will win," she added. "And we will not let anyone subvert our democracy."

Pence suggested any concerns over a peaceful transfer of power are unfounded and that he expects Trump will win reelection.

"President Donald Trump has launched a movement of everyday Americans from every walk of life," Pence said, "and I have every confidence that the same Americans are delivering it in 2016."

Oct 07, 2020, 10:41 PM EDT

FACT CHECK: Pence defends WH event after over a dozen COVID-19 cases, does not mention indoor portion

PENCE'S CLAIM: "It was an outdoor event, which all of our scientists regularly and routinely advise."

FACT CHECK: Vice President Mike Pence defended the 200-person event the Trump administration held at the White House on Sept. 26 when President Donald Trump announced he would nominate Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court -- despite the fact that over a dozen guests who attended have since tested positive, including the president and first lady Melania Trump.

While the main ceremony was held outside in the Rose Garden, numerous guests, including Trump, attended an indoor reception in the Diplomatic Room in the White House afterward. At least five people who attended the indoor portion of the event have since tested positive, including former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., and Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah.

Public health experts have repeatedly advised against indoor events, which has found renewed importance in light of recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance advising that the virus can spread beyond 6 feet indoors.

Even for outdoor events, public health experts encourage wearing masks and maintaining 6 feet of distance from others. The Rose Garden event did not follow either of these social distancing norms; chairs were not spaced out, few guests opted to wear masks and guests hugged and shook hands.

The coronavirus outbreak has infected "34 White House staffers and other contacts" in recent days, according to an internal government memo, an indication that the disease has spread among more people than previous known in the seat of American government, according to an ABC News report.

ABC News' Olivia Rubin and Leah Croll

Oct 07, 2020, 10:37 PM EDT

FACT CHECK: Pence overstates China travel restrictions

PENCE'S CLAIM: "Before there were more than five cases in the United States, all people who had returned from China, President Donald Trump did what no other American president had ever done. And that was, he suspended all travel from China, the second-largest economy in the world."

FACT CHECK: At the end of January, President Donald Trump issued a proclamation to restrict travelers who had visited China in the previous 14 days from entering the United States, but it was more narrow than Pence described. The orders did not apply to U.S. citizens, green card holders and their close family members. Health care workers were also exempt. 

Nearly 760,000 people entered the U.S. from China between December of last year and February, according to an ABC News review of traveler data. 

Restrictions on travelers from Europe started in March. An April study from researchers at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai found the first coronavirus cases in New York originated from Europe, not China.

--ABC News' Quinn Owen