The Note: Shutdown tests limits to party loyalty

The TAKE with Rick Klein

The government shutdown will not end with a State of the Union threat, or with a meeting of "problem solvers" who haven't actually solved any big problems, and maybe not even with more "Chuck and Nancy" meetings at the White House.

But when it does end, it will likely be because one side or the other finds the limits in the loyalty they can count on when it comes to the dispute President Donald Trump has framed.

Trump has glimpsed those limits, in the statement of moderate Senate Republicans who want the reopen the rest of the government, and even in the suggestions being offered by Sen. Lindsey Graham. Yet there's been no rush of GOP defections -- at least not yet.

Democrats have reasons to be worried about their unity as well. It's not just members of the "Problem Solvers Caucus" who might hesitate before echoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi contention that a border wall is "immoral."

Meanwhile, the shutdown pain grows, between lines at airports, stunted economic growth, delayed farm subsidies and missed paychecks for the Coast Guard.

Everyone is waiting for someone to blink. For that to happen, one side or the other is going to have to have their eyes forced open.

The RUNDOWN with MaryAlice Parks

While making her campaign announcement, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand seemed to emphasize she is not just a mom, but a young mom.

Several Democratic presidential hopefuls will no doubt lean into their youth as a way to draw comparisons with others in the pack. Party activists, after all, openly hand-wring about the need for a generational shift in leadership in Democratic ranks.

What a fascinating contrast with Pelosi in the new Congress. She retook the gavel at the start of the year despite calls from within the party for new faces. And her bold move Wednesday to all but cancel the State of the Union Address in the House chamber seemed to remind Democrats everywhere that experience actually can beget creative thinking.

The president has transformed how the town does business and likewise last year Senate Leader Mitch McConnell went nuclear.

The decision Wednesday, maybe more than the shutdown showdown itself, showed Pelosi's willingness to throw grenades too.

The TIP with Adam Kelsey

He may have been running down Pancake Boulevard, but it's clear that Beto O'Rourke is still waffling. And not simply about a potential presidential campaign, but several other issues too.

In a Medium post Wednesday, the former Texas congressman described his visit earlier this week to southwestern Kansas, including his jaunt on the aforementioned road in the appropriately named town of Liberal.

But in the diary entry, and in a separate Washington Post interview Tuesday, O'Rourke came across as someone struggling to figure out exactly where he stands.

In the Medium post, the Democrat describes being "in and out of a funk" and seeking to clear his head. In the Washington Post, when asked about the border and Syria, he called for "debate" and "discussion," something he seems to have done a lot of while in Kansas, but far from the concrete solutions sought by the public as they continue to elude Washington's current leadership.

It's still unknown whether O'Rourke's Kerouacian listening tour will ultimately conclude with a presidential decision, but one thing appears clear: Unless his platform and positions solidify in the interim, when it's time for the real debates, he could be toast.

THE PLAYLIST

ABC News' "Start Here" podcast. Thursday morning's episode features ABC News White House correspondent Karen Travers, who explains why Speaker Nancy Pelosi is suggesting moving the date for the State of the Union address as the shutdown stalemate continues. We hear from Rep. Tom Suozzi, D-N.Y., who met with the president Wednesday as part of the Problem Solvers Caucus. And, FiveThirtyEight Senior Political Writer Clare Malone tells us how Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., could capture the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. http://apple.co/2HPocUL

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