Trump trial: Cohen faces Trump team grilling over past lies, recollections

The defense questioned Trump's former lawyer on Day 18 of the hush money trial.

Last Updated: May 14, 2024, 4:08 PM EDT

Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York City, where he is facing felony charges related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. It marks the first time in history that a former U.S. president has been tried on criminal charges.

Trump last April pleaded not guilty to a 34-count indictment charging him with falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment his then-attorney Michael Cohen made to Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.

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May 14, 2024, 4:06 PM EDT

Defense continues to press Cohen on his cooperation

Following the mid-afternoon break, defense attorney Todd Blanche continued to press Michael Cohen on his motives for cooperating with the Manhattan DA's investigation that led to this trial.

Blanche asked Cohen about what happened in 2019 when the DA's investigators visited him in federal prison, where he was serving time for his role in the Stormy Daniels payout and other charges.

"One of the first things you wanted to talk to the prosecutors about was ... what is the benefit to you?" Blanche asked, noting that Cohen had told the prosecutors he had been "screwed" by the system.

"You wanted to know why you should meet with them, which is fair, right?" Blanche asked. "You wanted to know what the benefit was to you for being there, correct?"

"Correct," said Cohen.

Former President Donald Trump and his lawyer Emil Bove watch as Michael Cohen is questioned by prosecutor Susan Hoffinger during Trump's criminal trial in Manhattan state court in New York City, May 14, 2024 in this courtroom sketch.
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Blanche then brought up what is known as a Rule 35, which "gives the judge a right to give you a lower sentence if certain things happen like cooperation." He noted it had to be made within one year.

"Do you remember a conversation where your lawyers asked the district attorney whether they would be willing to help with the rule 35 motion in federal court?" Blanche asked.

"I believe so, yes," Cohen said.

Blanche suggested that timing was of the essence because he was sentenced in December 2018, meaning the clock was clicking to file a Rule 35 motion.

Cohen's Rule 35 motion was eventually denied. He subsequently completed his sentence in 2021.

May 14, 2024, 3:39 PM EDT

Defense suggests Cohen cooperated for reduced jail time

Defense attorney Todd Blanche asked Michael Cohen if he was angling to reduce his prison sentence when he decided to begin meeting with lawyers from the Manhattan district attorney's office in 2019.

"You were very much looking in the fall of 2019 for a way to get your sentence reduced?" Blanche asked.

"Yes, sure," Cohen responded.

Blanche suggested that attorney Anthony Scaramucci -- who Cohen said visited him in prison -- told him that cooperation might lead to a reduced sentence.

In total, Cohen said he met with prosecutors three times while incarcerated in 2019 -- on August 27, Sept. 19, and Oct. 3.

May 14, 2024, 3:35 PM EDT

Cohen questioned about Trump phone call

Defense attorney Todd Blanche, cross-examining Michael Cohen, sought to cast doubt on Cohen's testimony about calling Trump following the release of the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape in 2016.

Blanche showed Cohen notes from Cohen's interview with the special counsel who investigated Cohen in 2018.

"You told them you didn't recall speaking with President Trump about the tape?" Blanche asked.

Cohen responded that he was still being "loyal" to Trump at the time, in August 2018.

But by 2019, "you had changed your views about President Trump, correct?" Blanche asked.

"Correct," Cohen responded.

"You now said President Trump was a conman and you were ashamed?" Blanche asked.

"I said that, yes," Cohen answered.

May 14, 2024, 3:27 PM EDT

Cohen struggles to say when an untruth is a lie

During an extended back-and-forth, Michael Cohen struggled to admit that he lied to the special counsel in 2018 about Trump's involvement in a Trump Tower project in Moscow.

"Yes, the information I have was not accurate," Cohen said.

"Is it a lie?" Defense attorney Todd Blanche asked.

"It was inaccurate, yes," Cohen said.

"Was it a lie?" Blanche asked.

"I don't know if I would characterize it as a lie. It was inaccurate," Cohen said.

"How are you distinguishing that in your head?" Blanche asked.

"It wasn't truthful," Cohen said. "If you want to call it a lie, it was a lie."

After a long pause, Cohen said, "Sure, I will say it's a lie."

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