Beat Me in St. Louis
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6, 2004 — -- NOTED NOW
TODAY'S SCHEDULE (all times ET)
27 days until election day
2 days until the second presidential debate moderated by ABC News' Charles Gibson
7 days until the third presidential debate
NEWS SUMMARY
After talking to the spinners; listening to the pundits; reading the polls, the press releases, and the tea leaves, we believe the only sensible thing to do in summing up the impact of the vice presidential debate is to quote George Will's words from ABC News' primetime coverage:
" … Friday night there's the (presidential) debate itself and by that time this (debate in Cleveland) is going to seem as ancient as the Peloponnesian war. This will be a very forgettable experience."
It seemed a night to us when both men did some base solidifying, which both sides still need to do.
Cheney won the ABC News insta-poll, which also suggested more Republicans watched the debate than Democrats.
He also kept the Democrats from extending their Miami Momentum, thus taking at least some pressure off of his friend the president. And every day the team behind isn't obviously making up ground, they are losing.
And given that Bush-Cheney was hit with Bremer/Rumsfeld/CIA flaps right before the face-off, the veep avoided being swamped by that stuff — using his patented technique of answering the questions he wants to answer, rather than necessarily what is asked.
Thus, even though he was wrong about meeting Edwards before last night, and even though we weren't as impressed with the Howard Dean line as, say, Ken Mehlman was, we snap judge that it was a better night for the R's than the D's.
So/but turn all eyes to St. Louis and the Friday night fights.
While we wait to see what surprise the CIA has in store for the White House today, two big stories will likely dominate the political scene: President Bush's 10:00 am ET speech on the economy and terrorism that his campaign is billing as "important"; and a report (released at 2:00 pm ET) and accompanying public testimony (2:30 pm ET) from the head weapons inspector in Iraq that will show Saddam Hussein had no ability or concrete plans to create WMD but would have tried to create them if sanctions were lifted.
The President also heads to Farmington Hills, MI for a 3:15 pm ET rally.
Elsewhere, both Edwards and Cheney head to Florida for events — Cheney holds a noon ET rally in Tallahassee and a 3:55 pm meeting in Gainesville and Edwards holds a noon rally in West Palm Beach then flies to North Carolina for a rally before heading to New York City.
John Kerry is down outside of Denver for debate prep but appears in a taped segment on "Dr. Phil." Check local listings.
Laura Bush stumps in California and appears on the Tonight Show.
And Ralph Nader holds a press conference outside the "Skull and Bones" at Yale at 6:30 pm ET.
Today, the Media Fund launches new TV, radio and print ads in Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. They're a part of the Fund's campaign to target African-American voters.
ABC News Vote 2004: Bush-Cheney re-elect:
The Wall Street Journal 's Greg Hitt writes that President Bush's "major" speech today is an attempt to regain momentum lost at last week's debate and redirect the conversation before Friday's debate. Bush will try to tie together his policies on terrorism and his policies on the economy. LINK
So is this speech today really "major?"
When pressed by ABC News' Karen Travers, a senior campaign official would NOT call it a major speech, deeming it "important."
Why is it important? How is it different?
There will be a different framework, the official said. — Bush will be going hard against Sen. Kerry's record. Bush will "clearly lay out" the differences between him and Sen. Kerry on the war on terror and the economy.
He will look at Sen. Kerry's record voting for higher taxes, his economic plan that would "derail economic progress," voting against weapons systems that are vital in the war on terror.
Bush will be focusing on the differences and we'll see different language/framework from the president, the aide said.
And we'll see how Team Kerry responds … .
The New York Times ' Edmund Andrews looks at President Bush's efforts to change the tax code, and the competing interests at war in any discussion of how to simplify it. LINK
The politics of Iraq:
The New York Times ' Bumiller and Wilgoren on the "political furor" over L. Paul Bremer's comments that more could've been done to stop the looting and violence in Iraq with more American boots on the ground there. They Note Bremer's attempt to clarify ("retrospective wisdom") and the White House's private boiling as Sen. Kerry went to town using Bremer's remarks as proof that the administration mishandled the situation. LINK
The Wall Street Journal 's Gerald Seib says "October surprises" like Bremer's comments have the power to change the trajectory of the campaign. He looks at five others that could move things in the next 27 days, from Afghanistan to a terrorist attack. LINK
USA Today 's Barbara Slavin writes, "Bremer's remarks put the White House on the defensive less than a month before the presidential election and added to the disagreements over Iraq among former and current administration officials." LINK
The Wall Street Journal 's editorial board thinks Bremer got his facts wrong, and chastises him for putting a foot off the reservation.
The Washington Post 's Balz and Wright wrap Kerry's use of Bremer yesterday. LINK
"Kerry questioned whether either Bush or Vice President Cheney is capable of acknowledging errors or correcting U.S. policy, after former U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer said Monday that the United States needed more troops after the invasion to stabilize Iraq and stop the looting and violence that fostered the lawlessness that still plagues the country. Kerry said both men should be held accountable for misleading the United States about the war."
The head weapons inspector's report to be released today shows Saddam Hussein "posed a diminishing threat at the time the United States invaded and did not have … concrete plans to develop nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons," reports the Washington Post 's Allen and Priest. LINK
The New York Times ' Edward Wong reports that Iraqi interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi addressed the interim National Assembly on Tuesday and took "a darker tone on the state of the war," saying that the insurgency represents "a challenge to our will." He also said the Iraqi police are underequipped and lack the gravitas to control the situation, making security and reconstruction more difficult. LINK
ABC News Vote 2004: Beat Me in St. Louis:
We just love how the url for Washington University in St. Louis's student newspaper is "studlife."Debate prep, says the paper, is in full swing. LINK
Missouri voter registration deadline produced a scramble to sign up at the last minute, says our own Jonathan Greenberger. LINK
It's easy to register, but it's gonna be hard to get tickets for Friday night! LINK
Attention bookers: here's a list of debate events at the university. LINK
Apparently, Michael Moore's visit to campus is creating agita … LINK
Jo Mannies of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports "President George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry are planning to arrive early for Friday night's presidential debate and stick around town afterward — perhaps the strongest signal in weeks that Missouri may once again be in play."LINK
The Kansas City Star reports a surge in voter registration across the state of Missouri as they reached the registration deadline. LINK
Why did Sean Hannity cancel a planned appearance? LINK
"Hannity cited personal reasons for his cancellation, said law student Ruth Hollander after speaking with the right-wing pundit over the phone yesterday. Hannity, Hollander said, requested a private jet to fly him to St. Louis for the speech, but then rejected 'several' different jets offered by a private donor. He told Hollander about a 'bad experience' with the prominent company that had manufactured all the jets offered for his trip."
"'[Hannity's agent] said he thought we should say that because of the short time frame involved, it didn't work out,' said Hollander. 'I said I didn't think that was the truth, and … I really felt we had met all of our commitments and we were going to be honest when asked.'"
"Hannity's travel arrangements are also causing a stir at Utah Valley State College, where he is scheduled to speak Oct. 11. The Deseret Morning News reported Saturday that when Hannity's original flight plan fell through, the college agreed to foot the bill for a private Hawker jet to fly him into town. Hannity told the Morning News the 'accommodations weren't arranged at his request' and he didn't 'want a penny' for his appearance."
A word of warning to all you vulnerable politicos out there — the Arizona State University's State Press reports that the university is doing everything it can to sell its image. LINK
Cheney versus Edwards: first takes:
"Vice President Dick Cheney and Sen. John Edwards quarreled Tuesday in a hard-edged debate over honesty, credibility and the war in Iraq, each accusing the other of distorting facts and purposely misleading voters," write Mark Z. Barabak and Michael Finnegan of the Los Angeles Times. LINK
From the Washington Post 's Romano and Harris: "Iraq and terrorism dominated a hard-hitting and sometimes personal debate Tuesday night between the vice presidential nominees, with Vice President Cheney accusing the Democratic ticket of lacking the judgment to lead, and Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) responding that Cheney and President Bush lack credibility." LINK
The New York Times ' Stevenson and Toner lead with the candidates' differing over the Iraq war: "Fresh start" vs. "The right thing," and calls the matchup "a strikingly personal and bitter debate." LINK
The Wall Street Journal 's John Harwood and Jackie Calmes lead with the "misleading" vs. "experience and consistency" arguments laid out on Iraq and terrorism. And we just like anyone Noting that "the vice president mostly maintained his characteristic poker face." LINK
The San Francisco Chronicle's Zachary Coile calls last night's matchup "a stark departure from the kindler, gentler vice presidential debate four years ago," writing that Cheney and Edwards picked up where Bush and Kerry left off last week — and some say they did it a little better. LINK
The New York Daily News reports Cheney kept it short and sweet following praise from Sen. Edwards for loving his gay daughter, Mary Cheney. "Let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter."
"That's it?" moderator Gwen Ifill asked. "That's it," the conservative veep replied.LINK
Cheney versus Edwards: analysis:
The verdict in many corners: No clear winner, but both sides held the ground that was broken last week.
The New York Times ' Adam Nagourney writes that if Cheney came into the debate seeking to halt the Bush-Cheney "slippage," Edwards "succeeded at blocking him for much although certainly not all of the night." LINK
Al Hunt of the Wall Street Journal writes that both performances were "good, if sometimes flawed." And continuing his "hang out with x on debate night" series, he wraps in comments from Vin Weber and Vic Fazio. LINK
"In a spirited and at times fierce debate, Vice President Dick Cheney and Sen. John Edwards made it clear that both presidential campaigns believed this election could turn on a single question: Will the race be more about the record of George W. Bush or that of John F. Kerry?," leads Ron Brownstein's Los Angeles Times piece where he further pursues his spotlight theory. LINK
"But if they were evenly matched on the substance — which for the first 45 minutes covered much of the same ground as the presidential debate — their styles could not have been more at odds. Edwards grinned easily and gestured demonstratively; only a slight tremor in his hand at the debate's start betrayed his nerves. Cheney, elbows on the table, hands clasped, was serious and stern, delivering his barbs at Edwards acidly. It quickly became clear that Edwards would not be intimidated by Cheney … ," writes the Washington Post 's Dana Milbank. LINK
The New York Times ' Alessandra Stanley surveys the scene played out on TV: Edwards not showing "as much lawyerly cleverness as one could have expected," and Cheney not blowing his stack. LINK
Peter Canellos of Boston Globe fame thinks that the "presidential campaign had descended to a new level of acrimony with last night's vice presidential debate."LINK
USA Today 's Susan Page thinks it was "fast-moving, largely substantive and at times quite fierce." LINK
The San Francisco Chronicle's Marc Sandalow writes that it's obvious both sides neither like nor trust one another. LINK
The Chicago Tribune's Rick Pearson calls it a "sharp-elbowed debate over the credibility to lead a country at war." LINK
The Chicago Tribune's Jeff Zeleny writes that it was "a fresh opportunity to carry on their bosses' bitter quarreling." LINK
Joseph Curl Notes "The same political pundits who proclaimed Sen. John Kerry the winner of the first presidential debate last night gave the nod to Vice President Dick Cheney, saying he had bested Senator John Edwards in their debate by clearly illustrating the large stature gap between the two vice-presidential candidates." LINK
Knight Ridder's Thomma and Stearns heard "sharp personal attacks delivered in unemotional tones." LINK
Walter Shapiro calls it the "ruckus at the roundtable." LINK
Bob Novak's headline reads: "Cheney hit Kerry, but only managed tie with Edwards." LINK
Can you figure out which headline is Deborah Orin's news analysis and which is her commentary? — "Cheney comes out swinging." And "Bush's man shows boss how it's done." LINK and LINK
The Raleigh News & Observer's Bonner and Christensen write, "The crackling debate was tough and substantive but civil …" LINK
The Philadelphia Daily News's Gar Joseph (in a piece about whether it matters who won) writes, "U.S. Sen. John Edwards shed his puppy-dog image. It never did square with the facts." And "Vice President Dick Cheney, meanwhile, confirmed that he is always going to be the grown-up in the room: gruff, confident and able to take the strap to a youngster who gets out of line."LINK
The New York Post 's Ian Bishop took a straw poll of 20 D.C.-area undecided voters (er … ok). They scored it a win for Cheney. LINK
The New York Times ' editorial board is super excited about the substance of the VP debate. LINK
USA Today 's ed board thinks both men gave "the sense that they'd be competent should they be forced to assume the presidency in crisis." LINK
A slew of Boston Globe opinion writers take a stab at who one the debate.
Lehigh calls it a draw: LINK
Cathy Young also ties it up. LINK
Joan Vennochi claims Cheney was on the defensive. LINK
And Derrick Jackson says "Dick Cheney was the grump." LINK
Democratic pollster Mark Blumenthal on the Post -debate polls: LINK
"My first impression, based largely on the ABC survey results, is that among the debate was essentially a 'draw,' in that it reinforced existing opinions of debate viewers. The CBS survey suggests a better performance for Edwards among uncertain voters, but the release leaves out a few details that might give us greater confidence in the result. If Gallup surveyed poll watchers last night, I can't find it online."
"As the ABC release notes prominently, they showed an overall 'win' for Cheney largely because Republicans were more likely than Democrats to tune in to the debate (a finding that indirectly supports the notion that Cheney's continuing presence on the ticket helps motivate the GOP base)."
Cheney versus Edwards: fact check:
Tom Shales thinks that Cheney's false claim he had never met Edwards before was the night's zinger. LINK
The New York Times ' David Rosenbaum offers up a fact check on Iraq and al Qaeda, weapons votes, al Qaeda, Halliburton, the costs and casualties incurred in Iraq, taxes, Afghanistan, jobs, and voting records: LINK
The Washington Post 's Kessler and VandeHei fact check. LINK
The New York Times acknowledges that the subways were NOT closed during the convention. LINK
Cheney versus Edwards: the battlegrounds and the voters:
The debate produced not significant change in opinion among voters who watched in Central Florida. LINK
Under a Cleveland Plain Dealer headline: "No K.O." is this: LINK
"The prime-time debate between Cheney, the Republican, and Edwards, the Democrat, ended so far short of a knockout punch for either contender that uncommitted voters will probably stay uncommitted for now."
"Debate full of punches" blares the Columbus Dispatch headline over an article that states Cheney and Edwards "gave not ground … " LINK
The Cincinnati Enquirer quickly looks ahead to Friday in its lede debate story. LINK
"The hard-hitting debate between Vice President Dick Cheney and Democratic rival John Edwards set the stage for what is likely to be more of the same in Friday's second televised presidential showdown between their bosses."
Philadelphia Inquirer political writer Dick Polman calls the debate "a bare-knuckled duel between drawl and monotone." LINK
The Philadelphia Inquirer's Landay and Borenstein do some stellar fact-checking. LINK
The front page of the Philadelphia Daily News is the veep candidates with their fists up under the headline "Nasty Boys: Gloves Off in Cheney Edwards Veep Debate."LINK
Maeve Reston of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports on Spin Alley. LINK
This Pittsburgh Post-Gazette sub-head sums it up: "Republican says Kerry on wrong side of defense; Democrat says war mismanaged."LINK
In the Register's take on the debate: State Democratic Party Chair Gordon Fischer didn't like the Vice President's comment about "some precinct chairman in Iowa": LINK
The Kansas City Star: "The vice presidential candidates' debate was marked by pointed personal attacks delivered in unemotional tones." LINK
Bill Lambrecht of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on the debate: "Edwards, who often took the role of aggressor, also criticized Cheney for what he said was Cheney's repeated suggestion of a connection between Osama Bin Laden and deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein." LINK
Erin Neff of the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports on victory bells ringing in both parties' ears. LINK
The Albuquerque Journal conducted a post-debate poll of New Mexican voters and found Senator Kerry taking the lead. In a survey of registered voters conducted Oct. 1-4, Senator Kerry was at 46 percent, 43 percent for Bush, and eight percent undecided. LINK
"The previous Journal poll, conducted Aug. 27 to Sept. 1, showed Bush with a 45 to 42 percent edge over Kerry, with eight percent of voters undecided."
Cheney versus Edwards: the spin:
What was up with Ken Mehlman's e-mail to supporters sent out early this morning?
For one thing, it mentioned Cheney's factually incorrect assertion that he had never before met Sen. Edwards.
And it engages in some cagey, perhaps unintentional anaphora, repeating this line: "Even as one of the nation's best trial lawyers" in an unnecessary post script.
Joe Lockhart's e-mail is a bit over-the-top as well: "Dick Cheney is totally out of touch with reality in Iraq and totally out of touch with the struggles of the middle class. This is nothing new to a man with a lifetime record of protecting the powerful and well-connected. He came across as smug, arrogant, mean and defensive — but his trademark distortions and scare tactics didn't work. John Edwards refused to let him play the politics of fear and forced Dick Cheney to confront his administration's record of failure."
This is how James Bennet of the New York Times ends his overview of the evening:
"Despite the harsh words, such gatherings of political professionals and political journalists can feature moments of genuine bipartisan bonhomie, at least away from the cameras. In a room outside the debate hall where reporters and politicians bellied up to a spread of turkey, cabbage and cannolis laid out by Anheuser-Busch, the top partisans — Ed Gillespie, chairman of the Republican National Committee, and Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee — shared a snack and a roar of laughter before the candidates squared off." LINK
"Fresh from a snappish joint encounter on cable television, Mr. Gillespie told Mr. McAuliffe that he would see him again at 7 o'clock, when the two were due for yet another face-off in cableland."
"Mr. McAuliffe said he was not sure he would appear, because, he said, Joe Lockhart, Mr. Kerry's spokesman, was hogging all the airtime. Mr. Gillespie replied that Mr. Lockhart had been doing the same thing with the Anheuser-Busch cookies."
"Both men laughed and later asked a reporter not to report the exchange because, they said, it was mean."
"Informed of the incident, Mr. Lockhart said, 'I refuse to go negative.'"
"He noted that he gave Mr. Gillespie a can of beer after the presidential debate on Thursday in Florida."
ABC News Vote 2004: Bush v. Kerry:
Both Cheney and Edwards will grace Florida's sunshine today. LINK
The Wall Street Journal 's's Greg Hitt reports that the candidates' battleground state visits are straining city and state budgets. LINK
ABC News Vote 2004: Kerry-Edwards '04:
Thomas Beaumont of the Des Moines Register takes in Kerry's pre-debate Iowa stump: "I don't know if the president is constitutionally capable of acknowledging the truth." (with a little 'c') LINK
The New York Observer's Ben Smith chronicles the return of Howard Wolfson. LINK
The New York Observer's Philip Weiss interviews George Butler. LINK
ABC News Vote 2004: casting and counting:
The Florida Supreme Court has accepted the provisional ballot suit brought by organized labor and voting rights activists.
Briefs are due Friday at noon.
Arguments are set for Oct. 13.
At issue: whether the state regulation deeming acceptable only those provisional ballots cast by voters at the precinct level violates the Florida Constitution.LINK
We're still waiting for some sort of resolution this week on Rep. Wexler's federal suit on manual recounts and a new rule from the Secretary of State about said recounts as well as a resolution to what observers are calling the "check box" controversy.
"The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating 1,500 voter-registration forms received by the Leon County elections office that apparently were altered to register local students as Republicans," the Orlando Sentinel reports. LINK
"A spot-check of voters who were registered using photocopied forms indicates that they really did sign up to vote, Leon County's elections chief said Tuesday, but doubts continue about their choice of party," the Tallahassee Democrat reports. LINK
Teresa LePore, sued again: LINK
A nice overview of ALL the pre-election legal challenges in Florida: LINK
Democrats are warning that excessive election day security measures could suppress turnout among urban and minority voters, the Washington Post 's Hsu and Becker reports. LINK
ABC News Vote 2004: the Big Four battlegrounds: Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Wisconsin:
Union protestors created a ruckus in three Florida cities. LINK
Nader-Camejo:
Jack Sherzer of the Patriot-News reports some Pennsylvania counties are mailing out absentee ballots with Ralph Nader's name on them, though the ongoing court challenge over whether he can be listed has not been resolved. "We have to send them. We don't have any choice," said Steve Chiavetta, director of the Dauphin County voter registration office who estimates the county will have about 5,000 absentee voters. "We can't wait any longer," he said. LINK
Ralph Nader does his campaign thang in central New York. LINK
Nader called liberal and progressive support for Kerry an "unconditional surrender" while stumping in Maine yesterday, Notes the AP. He had a special message for the folks who worked to keep him off the ballot. "I say to the Democrats in Maine . . . shame on you. You're disgracing yourself. You're showing what hypocrites you are," says Nader. LINK
Politics:
The New York Daily News reports the DOJ is looking into dot-com entrepreneur Peter Paul for going out of pocket $366,000 in contributions for a Hollywood event for Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2000, "but falsely claimed it was company money." LINK
TODAY'S SCHEDULE (all times ET):
—9:00 am: The House Democratic Caucus hold its weekly closed meeting
—10:10 am: President Bush delivers a major speech about the war on terrorism at the F.M. Kirby Center for the Performing Arts, Wilkes-Barre, PA
—11:00 am: Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies Chairman Lott and Sen. Chris Dodd participate in the nail driving ceremony at the Capitol for the 2005 Presidential Inauguration, Washington, DC
—12:00 pm: The "9/11 Families & Victims for Truth" holds a news conference at the National Press Club to send an open letter to President Bush urging release of 28 secret pages from the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after 9/11, Washington, DC
—12:00 pm: Vice President Cheney and Lynne Cheney host a town hall with Florida voters at the Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center, Tallahassee, FL
—12:00 pm: Sen. John Edwards holds a rally at the Palm Beach Convention Center, West Palm Beach, FL
—12:00 pm: Reps. Dennis Kucinich and Steven LaTourette and Willie Nelson hold a news conference to call for more attention to family farm issues, Washington, DC
—12:30 pm: Laura Bush holds a closed-door address to Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit, Dana Point, CA
—12:45 pm: ACT holds a press conference and demonstration march outside the St. Louis board of elections, St Louis, MO
—1:00 pm: House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, Sen. Hillary Clinton, House Democratic Caucus Chairman Bob Menendez, Reps. Charlie Gonzalez and Chaka Fattah, and others hold a press conference to discuss voter intimidation, Washington, DC
—1:30 pm: Elizabeth Edwards holds a town hall meeting on keeping America safe at the VFW, Charlotte, NC
—2:00 pm: Head Iraq weapons inspector Charles Duelfer's full report on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is released at www.cia.gov
—2:30 pm: Charles Duelfer testifies before the Armed Services Committee at the Capitol, Washington, DC
—3:00 pm: Ralph Nader speaks at Brown University, Providence, RI
—3:00 pm: NPR hosts a debate between DNC General Counsel Joseph Sandler and former lead Bush-Cheney counsel Ben Ginsberg
—3:15 pm: President Bush speaks at a rally at the Founders Sports Park, Farmington Hills, MI
—3:55 pm: Vice President Cheney participates in a Coffee with Community Leaders at Gainesville Harley - Davidson & Buell, Gainesville, FL
—4:00 pm: Sens. Collins and Lieberman hold a press conference on final passage of the Intelligence Reform Bill, Senate Radio TV Gallery, Washington, DC
—5:30 pm: White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card hosts a Web chat at http://www.georgewbush.com/Chat/
—5:30 pm: Teresa Heinz Kerry holds a conversation on health care, Bellevue, WA
—6:30 pm: Ralph Nader holds a press conference at Skull and Bones at Yale to discuss the "relevance of Skull and Bones to the 2004 election."
—7:00 pm: Sen. Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards attend a "welcome home" rally at North Carolina A&T University, Greensboro, NC
—8:00 pm: Ralph Nader speaks at Yale University, New Haven, CT
—8:00 pm: Presidential candidates David Cobb, Walt Brown, Michael Badnarik, and Michael Peroutka debate at Cornell, Ithica, NY
—8:30 pm: Teresa Heinz Kerry attends a women for Kerry rally at Seattle Central Community College, Seattle, WA
—10:00 pm: Laura Bush speaks at a closed-door RNC fundraiser, Atherton, CA
—11:30 pm: Laura Bush appears on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno
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