Lady Bird Johnson's Audio Diaries
On Jackie Kennedy: "I don't think I've ever seen anybody so much alone."
July 11, 2007 — -- For two nights in 1997, Lady Bird Johnson talked with "Nightline's" Ted Koppel about the extraordinary years she spent with her husband, Lyndon Baines Johnson, in the White House. She recalls the horrific assassination of President John F. Kennedy that thrust her husband into the Oval office and the center of one of the most turbulent chapters in the nation's history.
Below is an unedited transcript of the interview:
October 8, 1997
TED KOPPEL
(VO) It was the day America stood still.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
We were rounding the curve, going downhill. Suddenly, there was a
sharp, loud report, a shot.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) A day of personal tragedy.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
Suddenly I found myself face to face with Jackie. I don't think I
ever saw anybody so much alone in my life.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) And of a new beginning.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
There, in the very narrow confines of the plane, with Jackie on his
left, Lyndon took the oath of office.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) They've never been publicly heard before, the LADY BIRD JOHNSON
audio diaries. Tonight, November 22, 1963.
ANNOUNCER
From ABC News, this is Nightline. Reporting from Washington, Ted
Koppel.
TED KOPPEL
Diaries offer their authors the comfortable promise of absolute
privacy. Since most of the time the narrator and the intended
audience are one and the same, diaries are the perfect receptacle for
intimate revelations. And since they are normally kept on a regular,
if not a daily basis, the observations contained in them are clear
and fresh, unaffected by the passage of time or the loss of memory.
It is not altogether clear whether Lady Bird Johnson ever
intended her diary to become public, but she began keeping it,
dictating entries into what she called her talking machine, shortly
after John F. Kennedy was assassinated and her husband, Lyndon
Johnson, became the president of the United States. And Mrs Johnson
continued making entries into her audio diary virtually every day of
her husband's presidency.
Over the past four years, we have broadcast a number of programs
using Oval Office tapes that were recorded during the Johnson years.
If you've heard any of those tapes, I think you'll agree that they
capture something of Lyndon Johnson that would otherwise never have
emerged in public.
Helping us compile some of those programs has been historian
Michael Beschloss, whose new book, "Taking Charge: The Johnson White
House Tapes 1963 - 1964" has just been published. It includes
excerpts from Mrs Johnson's audio diary. They, and conversations
recorded aboard Air Force One on the day that Kennedy was shot are
being played in public for the first time tonight.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
Friday, November 22nd. It all began so beautifully. After a drizzle
in the morning, the sun came out bright and beautiful. We were going
into Dallas. In the lead car, President and Mrs Kennedy and John and
Nellie. And then a Secret Service car full of men and then our car
with Lyndon and me and Senator Yarborough.
The streets were lined with people, lots and lots of children
all smiling, placards, confetti. People were waving from windows.
Then almost at the edge of town on our way to the trade mart, where
we were going to have a luncheon, we were rounding a curve, going
down a hill. Suddenly, there was a sharp, loud report, a shot.
1ST REPORTER
It appears as though something has happened in the motorcade route.
Something, I repeat, has happened in the motorcade route. There are
numerous people running there, but it is believed that President
Kennedy has been shot. President Kennedy was -- something is
terribly wrong. I think behind the motorcade. It looks as though
they're going to Parkland Hospital.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
It seemed to me to come from the right above my shoulder from a
building. Then one moment and then two more shots in rapid
succession. I heard over the radio system, "Let's get out of here!"
A Secret Service man vaulted over the front seat on top of Lyndon,
threw him to the floor and said, "Get down!"
Senator Yarborough and I ducked our heads. The car was
accelerated terrifically fast, faster and faster. Then suddenly they
put on the brakes so hard that I wondered if they were going to make
it as they wheeled left around a corner. I looked up and saw it said
"hospital". Only then did I believe that this might be what it was.
As we ground to a halt, I cast one last look back over my
shoulder and saw a bundle of pink, just like a drift of blossoms,
lying in the back seat. I think it was Mrs Kennedy lying over the
president's body.
Throughout it all, Lyndon was remarkably calm and quiet. He
said, "We'd better move the plane to another part of the field. He
spoke of going back out to the plane in black cars.
PRES LYNDON B. JOHNSON
What raced through my mind was that if they had shot our president
driving down there, who would they shoot next and what would they --
what was going on in Washington and when would the missiles be
coming? And I thought that it was a conspiracy and I raised that
question and nearly everybody that was with me raised it.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
People came and went. Every face that came in you searched for the
answers that you must know.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) Also searching for answers was Pierre Salinger, the president's
press secretary. He was accompanying a handful of cabinet members,
including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, on a flight to Tokyo to
prepare for an upcoming presidential trip. Pierre Salinger's Secret
Service code name was "Wayside."
PIERRE SALINGER
White House situation room, this is Wayside. Do you read me, over?
Over.
DISPATCHER
This is the situation room. I read you. Go ahead.
PIERRE SALINGER
Give me all available information on the president, over.
DISPATCHER
All available information on president follows. He and Governor
Connally of Texas have been hit in the car in which they were riding.
We do not know how serious the situation is. We have no information.
We are getting our information over the tickers, over.
PIERRE SALINGER
That is affirmative, affirmative. Please keep us advised out here.
This plane, on which secretary of state and other cabinet ministers
headed for Japan, turning around, returning to Honolulu.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) At Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Lady Bird sees Mrs Kennedy
waiting for news on the president's condition.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
Suddenly I found myself face to face with Jackie in a small hall. I
think it was right outside the operating room. You always think of
her, or somebody like her, as being insulated, protected. She was
quite alone. I don't think I ever saw anybody so much alone in my
life. I went up to her, put my arms around her and said something.
I'm sure it was quite banal, like, "God, help us all," because my
feelings for her were too tumultuous to put into words.
TED KOPPEL
When we come back, Lady Bird Johnson, Jackie Kennedy and a hurried
swearing in of the new president.
(Commercial Break)
TED KOPPEL
Just after 1:00 pm central time, about 30 minutes after the shots
were fired, news of President Kennedy's condition emerged from the
operating room. Vice President Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson were
with Malcolm Kilduff, President Kennedy's press person that day in
Dallas and Kenny O'Donnell, White House chief of staff.
LADY BIRD JOHNSON
I turned and went back to the small white room where Lyndon still
was. Mr Kilduff and Kenny O'Donnell were coming and going. I think
it was from Kenny's face and from Kenny's voice that I first heard
the words "the president is dead". Mr Kilduff entered and said to
Lyndon, "Mr President."
TED KOPPEL
(VO) A short time later, the plane loaded with cabinet members, also
received the news.
DISPATCHER
This is situation room relay following to Wayside. We have report
quoting Mr Kilduff in Dallas that the president is dead, that he died
about 35 minutes ago. Do you have that, over?
PIERRE SALINGER
The president's dead, is that correct?
DISPATCHER
That is correct. That is correct.
2ND REPORTER
We have this from Washington. Government sources now confirm that
President Kennedy is dead.
TED KOPPEL
(VO) Shortly after the president was pronounced dead, the Secret