SJ: Well, you know, it's amazing. I think one of the most precious resources we all have these days is free time. And that's one of the great things about an iPod is you can use it while you're doing other stuff. So you can use it while you're exercising. You can use it while you're taking the subway to work-- driving to work, et cetera.
And what podcasting does is it lets me pick out those precise things I'm interested in. Whether it's a podcast on-- you know, on new films that have just come out, on-- on-- on-- on news, on music, whatever. And it automatically-- every time there's a new episode of that particular show, it automatically puts it on iTunes and syncs it to my iPod. So without any work on my part whatsoever, when I'm driving to work tomorrow, the latest and greatest episodes of the podcasts that I've picked are right on my iPod, saving me a ton of time.
And it's the most personalized thing we've ever done. 'Cause you get to pick of these 3,000 podcasts, you know, who knows? Maybe there'll be 10,000 podcasts soon. You get to pick which ones you're interested in. And, again, have the latest episodes delivered right to your iPod. And that's-- that's pretty profound when you think about it.
JT: The-- Apple's obviously-- been a huge player in all sorts of technological advancements. You guys, you know, launched the personal computer revolution in the '70s with the Apple II. You reinvented in the '80s with the Mac. Some critics of your company say that Apple is currently betting the company on iPod. And computer sales are not as important. Do you think that's a fair criticism? How do you respond to that?
SJ: Well, you know, all I can say is that our Macintosh computer sales are growing at-- you know, three to four times the rate of the rest of the industry. And-- we continue to be the leader in innovation. I think everybody's copying us. So-- you know, we're working really hard to make the best personal computers in the world. And we're working very hard to make the best portable digital music players in the world. And I think both are very important to us.
JT: OK. One last question, Steve, and I appreciate your time. When are we gonna see a video iPod? What-- and what are the other future developments for the iPod?
SJ: Well, you know us. We never talk about future products. There used to be a saying at Apple: Isn't it funny? A ship that leaks from the top. So-- I don't wanna perpetuate that. So I really can't say.
JT: Okay. (LAUGHTER) Well, Steve Jobs, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.
SJ: Well, thanks for having me. And I hope you-- everybody out there gets a chance to-- to go to the iTunes Music Store and check out the-- the new podcast directory and subscribe to a few podcasts today.
JT: And to download the ABC News Shuffle. And that is it for the ABC News Shuffle. I'm Jake Tapper. Thanks for downloading us.